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Posted on 08/24/2004 8:58:28 PM PDT by nwctwx
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You see, the black boxes switched themselves off immediately......(and no, I am not making this up).
That doesn't require any tinfoil, IMO.
We used to take vacations at Banff, Lake Louise, Vancouver and Victoria all the time, but not anymore. There is a marked disdain for Americans (except for their $$) and its a breeding ground for terrorists. There's no place like my home country and many places I've yet to see right here in the good old USA (gasoline prices allowing).
The Killing of Larisa Jabrailova and Heda (January 21)
Forty-year-old "Hedi L." (not her real name) told Human Rights Watch
that she and two other women went to check on their houses in
Staropromyslovski district on the morning of January 21.(18) After
checking two of the homes, they encountered a group of Russian
soldiers on an APC on Pugacheva Street. When they asked the soldiers
whether they could proceed, the soldiers said they would have to
speak to their commander and check their documents. The women
were taken to a two-story house which was in the process of being
looted by Russian soldiers, where they were questioned.
After being briefly questioned, a soldier told the women he was taking
them to the MVD station for questioning. The soldier ordered the
women into an APC, but they said they were afraid and would rather
walk. The soldiers gave the women scarves and ordered them to cover
their eyes. The women were taken to a destroyed house on Koltsova
Street. When they asked why they were being taken there, the
soldiers replied that the police were based there.
As they entered the yard of the home, the women let go of each
other's hands and removed their blindfolds. Three soldiers, including
one named Afonja (the eyewitness did not know the soldier's last
name), had taken them into the yard. "At that moment, they fired at
us," Hedi L. told Human Rights Watch. "One woman was only able to
say, 'Don't shoot, we have children.'" The two women died
immediately: Larisa Jabrailova, aged forty-three with two daughters,
and an ethnic Kumyk woman named Heda (last name unknown) who
had four children. Hedi L., herself seriously wounded, survived by
pretending to be dead.
The soldiers proceeded to loot the belongings of the women.
According to Hedi L.:
They checked the other two women for money or gold. When I fell,
they turned me over face down. They took my gold ring and earrings.
They checked me all over, and found 400 rubles in one pocket. It was
tough for them to get my gold ring, and they were looking for a knife
but couldn't find it. They tried again, and fortunately the ring came off.
After robbing the women, the soldiers piled mattresses on top of
them, doused the mattresses with gasoline, set them on fire, and left
the area. Fortunately, the mattresses were damp and Hedi L. was able
to escape and crawl to a neighbor's house before losing
consciousness. Through another neighbor, Hedi L.'s family in
Ingushetia was informed and several family members came and
brought her to Ingushetia. Human Rights Watch interviewed Hedi L. in
Ingushetia, where she was recovering from her injuries. Human Rights
Watch researchers were able to document her bullet wound and burn
marks, which were consistent with her testimony. A second witness,
fifty-three-year-old Anastasia K. (not her real name), was one of the
relatives who traveled to Grozny to help move Hedi L. to safety.(19)
Anastasia K., confirmed that Hedi L. had told her the same account of
her ordeal when they went to collect her in Grozny, and described the
attempts by the families of the two women to recover their bodies,
which have thus far been unsuccessful.
From: Russia/Chechnya
February 2000 report.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/russia_chechnya/#_1_17
Thanks for posting a follow-up to an important under-reported story.
Did you catch the date ?
11-7
That was discussed here only days ago, but I don't recall the details.
I followed your Pravda link and found this story:
ALL TELEPHONES ARE CUT OFF IN NORTH KOREAN CAPITAL
08/26/2004 19:23
Since August 23, no telephone is working in North Korean capital. There are different reports on the causes of the problems with the phone lines. On the one hand, the local phone services say that they are working on fixing the technical problems, and the phone lines will be functioning properly soon. On the other hand, some agencies refer to the source in North Korean Ministry of Communications who allegedly said that the "phone lines cut off is an official measure of permanent nature".
"This decision was made on the government level", said an anonymous source. (snip)
http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/366/13919_Pyongyang.html
Interesting -- that would make Saturday 11/9
When they don't take incidents like this seriously, it's a bad sign for all of us. Writing it off as a "job-related injury" would be par for the course on what we've seen with multiple occasions of intelligence provided to these agencies and discarded or ignored by them.
Woman Bomber Eyed In Crash
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/24/world/main638203.shtml
Now that is a fascinating find lc. Wonder what they have up their nasty sleeves?
Signed up! Just waiting for the e-mail validation. WCWC. I spend a lot of posting time over at wxchat.com Plus they have the "Hurricane Hunt" contest going. My guess for the contest is first landfall on San Salvador, Cat 3. Then into Florida and turning up towards the north. I missed Charley by about 150 miles on my first guess, so what do I know...
I am throwing away the second half of the Lindser Tart I was just eating now. It is tasting a bit stale anyway. By now, I should certainly know better and wait to eat after I am done Freeping!
That story is atocious. It replaced the hunger in my belly with a lump. Our world is sick, absolutely sick.
The rest of the article speculated that it was in response to Japan's launch of a spy satellite to watch NK's nuclear "objects." (I love the Russian to English translations :)
Militants Eyeing Seaborne Attack, U.S General Says
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/story.jsp?id=2004082522300002101836&dt=20040825223000&w=RTR&coview
Amazing. I have seen more pinging and ponging concerning the details of the two Russian plane crashes than when I watched the Olympics' table tennis competitions.
fullwave, did you get that from Casey at IH? Please include the source in your posts. Thanks. :)
I have my folks traveling from Florida to NY next Thursday (9/2, unfortunately) and then back again on the following Sunday. Do you think Hurricane Frances will make enough progress to affect the weather on the east coast and interfere with such flights during that timeframe? Thanks for any help you can provide.
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