[NJ_gent]

"I'm coming up short here..."

I'm coming up short here too... of cold hard facts. What we have available to us at the present time are preliminary data and bad feelings. My only point was that declaring this a terrorist attack without having even basic hard facts in front of us is getting a little ahead of ourselves; in my opinion. We don't even know for certain that two planes are down. The stories I've seen so far can only confirm that one plane went down and they're not sure where a second plane is because they don't see it on radar. That could mean a lot of things.

[Camel Joe]

2nd plane is missing and not confirmed down, transponder is turned off... very very bad!!

[GarySpFc]

I'm coming up short here too... of cold hard facts. What we have available to us at the present time are preliminary data and bad feelings. My only point was that declaring this a terrorist attack without having even basic hard facts in front of us is getting a little ahead of ourselves; in my opinion.

Apparently you disagree with the head of the Russia Special Forces who said his initial thoughts were terrorism. I agree with him. Both planes took off from the same airport, and there was not any radio contact as the planes went down. One was known to have blown up in the air. I have little doubt this was done by the Checyinians.

We have an apartment in Volgograd where the plane was headed that crashed in Tula. The second plane crashed near Rostov-on-Don which is about 200 miles east of Volgograd.