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TWO Russian Airliners Have Crashed.

Posted on 08/24/2004 3:01:38 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55

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301 posted on 08/24/2004 3:50:02 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: NJ_gent
Shoulder-fire missiles

As at least one airliner was at or near cruise altitude, this is highly unlikely.

302 posted on 08/24/2004 3:50:10 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (I Annoy Buchananites)
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To: TankerKC

I concur.


303 posted on 08/24/2004 3:50:37 PM PDT by Embedded Freeper
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To: ambrose

Ambrose, I want you to know that episode scared the crap out of me as a kid (my Dad loved the Twilight Zone and the Outer Limits). Gremlins.


304 posted on 08/24/2004 3:50:44 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: FoxPro

This from Airliners.net chat:

MSNBC speaking with a Russian Affiliate live! right now! 6:40PM EDT, in the US.

Apparently, he's saying the 2nd plane has only lost contact and is not officially confirmed as crashed but if it has crashed he's saying that it's a "HIGH POSSIBILITY" it could be a terrorist attack (probably chechnyan). The first plane is reported to have exploded in mid-air by a wittness


305 posted on 08/24/2004 3:50:58 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: BurbankKarl

It looks like they took off around the same time and they went down about the same time. Sounds to me more like a timed explosion, rather than ground to air. I don't believe this is an accident as most accidents occur shortly after takeoff or shortly before landing. These were apparently in mid-flight. Hmmm.


306 posted on 08/24/2004 3:51:05 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: capitan_refugio

THere's .... some ...THING ...On ... thewing


307 posted on 08/24/2004 3:51:53 PM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: COEXERJ145
God, trying to discuss aviation with people who can't tell a 747 from an A340 is just about impossible.

The Michael Rivero influence lives on at FR!

308 posted on 08/24/2004 3:52:03 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: Larry Lucido

Hmmmm, I presume this photo, with yourself so prominently posing in the foreqround, was taken after the fall of the Soviet Union? :-)


309 posted on 08/24/2004 3:52:04 PM PDT by ableChair
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To: TankerKC
Which, of course, is as silly as those that are already CONVINCED that this is terrorism.

Not silly at all. There are no plausible non-terrorist explanations. OTOH, ramp security is a joke. For a case of vodka you could have the run of the place, especially at night.

Wanna bet a Moslem ramper fails to show up for work tommorow?

And all the U.S. airports with sloppy ramp security... it's going to be an interesting few weeks, at least.

310 posted on 08/24/2004 3:52:15 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Could this have anything to do with the possible war with Georgia????

Possible war in Georgia???!!! Ohmgosh! I have relatives in Atlanta!

311 posted on 08/24/2004 3:52:17 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: NJ_gent
Shoulder-fire missiles

These planes had to be at cruising altitude, far above the range of shoulder-fired missiles, I'd suspect.

312 posted on 08/24/2004 3:52:20 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: All
Tass says one Russian airliner crashes, second missing

MOSCOW (AP) — A Russian airliner crashed south of Moscow, and another passenger jet went missing about the same time after both took off from Moscow, the ITAR-Tass news agency reported Tuesday. There was no word on survivors.

Authorities were not ruling out terrorism, the agency said.

A Tu-134 airliner that apparently had 42 people aboard crashed in the Tula region, 125 miles south of Moscow, at about 10:56 p.m. Monday, ITAR-Tass reported, citing the Emergency Situations Ministry.

A Tu-154 with 44 people aboard went missing about the same time near Rostov-on-Don, about 600 miles south of Moscow, but authorities had not found the wreckage, ITAR-Tass said.

Earlier, however, the agency said emergency officials reported that the second plane crashed about three minutes after the first one.

Quoting an unnamed air traffic official in Moscow, where both planes originated, ITAR-Tass said authorities were not ruling out terrorism. The agency also reported that witnesses said they saw an explosion before the Tula region crash.

The plane that crashed near Tula was headed to the southern city of Vologograd, while the plane that disappeared was flying to the Black Sea resort city of Sochi, where President Vladimir Putin is vacationing, ITAR-Tass reported.

In Washington, a senior U.S. State Department official said, “We are obviously concerned by the news. We’re following developments closely and trying to determine the facts.”

313 posted on 08/24/2004 3:52:26 PM PDT by JellyJam
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To: COEXERJ145

What could it hurt, we are not policy makers after all.


314 posted on 08/24/2004 3:52:26 PM PDT by Camel Joe (Proud Uncle of a Fine Young Marine)
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To: Wolfstar
Re: Weather could be another possibility.

I'm no aviation expert, but here is the data for Rostov-on-Don, Russia

Weather > Russia > Rostov-on-Don

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315 posted on 08/24/2004 3:52:31 PM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: Camel Joe
Because it usually gets real nasty when certain people find out not every agrees with their theory that every airliner crash is caused by terrorists.
316 posted on 08/24/2004 3:53:43 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (I Annoy Buchananites)
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To: JellyJam

It now seems the second plane is "missing". How far from Rostov-on-Don to Athens?


317 posted on 08/24/2004 3:54:12 PM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: JellyJam
Authorities were not ruling out terrorism

They have better sense than the AA587 spinners.

318 posted on 08/24/2004 3:54:30 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: commish

Good question! Maybe hijackers aboard, taking it somewhere ...


319 posted on 08/24/2004 3:54:57 PM PDT by JellyJam
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To: blackdog

I am glad to see that I am not alone in my own musings.


320 posted on 08/24/2004 3:55:11 PM PDT by Camel Joe (Proud Uncle of a Fine Young Marine)
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