Posted on 08/24/2004 11:49:52 AM PDT by Stultis
Ah,, never mind, i see you caught it. :-)
LOL!
I give up...........Kill me please!
heheh ROFL,, No, first you squirm, then you die!! :-)
I'm gonna get replies on this for days!
A peace agreement was signed on January 22, 1973.
The policy of Vietnamization (gradual withdrawal of US troops replaced by newly-trained ARVN troops) officially began on January 21, 1969.
I'm not sure when the last volunteer reported for active duty in Vietnam, but assuming that such volunteers stopped arriving after the peace agreement and that volunteers could legally serve at 17 with parental permission, someone could theoretically be a combat veteran of Vietnam at age 47.
The probability of such people existing is pretty low, I would think.
What part of his affidavit constitutes perjury?
I haven't found a copy of the affidavit yet. Do you have a link to it? If you could post the link or just the perjurous portion of it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
Written statements are regularly taken from 3rd party participants. See #21 -- In the Kobe Bryant trial, for example, the other hotel worker that the accused told about the rape has relevant information. What she said, when she said it, are all important.
French, reporting what he was told at the time, is giving valuable information about how a particular story has not changed, about a sequence of events that was in the mind of other participants at the time, and, since he was in the unit, he would have been in a position to know if any of the boats had received small arms damage.
He appears to be very careful to say he was not involved.
What are "official reports" but hearsay?
Written statements are regularly taken from 3rd party participants. See #21 -- In the Kobe Bryant trial, for example, the other hotel worker that the accused told about the rape has relevant information. What she said, when she said it, are all important.
French, reporting what he was told at the time, is giving valuable information about how a particular story has not changed, about a sequence of events that was in the mind of other participants at the time, and, since he was in the unit, he would have been in a position to know if any of the boats had received small arms damage.
He appears to be very careful to say he was not involved.
John F and Judy Prescott
Canby, OR 97013
I don't want to post his complete address, but perhaps this would help research his military record.
Why can damn lawyers attest to hearsay and I can't??
I just received this in an email....Does anyone know anything about this?
Subject: Looks Like Its Getting Deeper
Alston Never Served Under Kerry
Captain's Quarters | 8/14/2004 |
Posted on 08/14/2004 7:15:31 AM PDT by stayout
For those of you who have not been fully following the Swift Vet's story, one of Kerry's traveling entourage (David Alston) claimed he was under Kerry's command on a PBF and found Kerry to be a great leader. He even gave a speech to that effect at the Democratic National Convention, where he said the following:
I know him from a small boat in Vietnam, where we fought and bled together, serving our country. There were six of us aboard PCF-94, a 50-foot, twin-engine craft known as a "Swift Boat." We all came from different walks of life, but all of us-including our skipper, John Kerry-volunteered for combat duty. And combat is what we got.
However, one intrepid blogger now has proven that to be a lie, Alston never served under Kerry because Alston was wounded and out of action before Kerry took command of Alston's boat. Here is the final bit of proof (published early this morning), I suggest you go to Captain's Quarters to find all the previous analysis leading up to this astonishing coup de gras (pass the word):
Alston Never Served Under Kerry Thanks to reader Lori in Texas, I think we've just about pieced the record together on David Alston and his supposed service under John Kerry's command. Lori points out a sympathetic article on Dale Sandusky, one of the few Swift boat veterans supporting Kerry and one that served on his boat, specifically gives the timing on Kerry's command of PCF-94:
In January 1969, Sandusky's boat, PCF-94, came under attack during one such ambush. Lt.Ted Peck, the officer in charge, and another crewman were seriously wounded. Sandusky had to take command. The boat was sinking and on fire, but Sandusky steered it back to safety. They counted 155 bullet holes in the boat and found a live enemy rocket in the main cabin. It had come to rest in a sack of potatoes. For his actions, Sandusky would receive the Bronze Star.
With their officer headed home, the crew of PCF-94 needed a leader. And Lt. j.g.John Kerry, whose crew on PCF-44 had rotated back home, needed men to lead.
"I was sure glad he came along," Sandusky said, "because to be honest, I didn't want to take command."
From Jan. 30 to March 13, 1969, Kerry and the crew of the PCF-94 would conduct 18 missions in the Mekong Delta River system. In that time, Kerry would earn a Silver Star, a Bronze Star and add two Purple Hearts to the one he received earlier.
Bingo! Yachtzee! Alston received his serious wounds in that same exact battle that took Peck out of service. On January 29th, Alston was medevaced out to a hospital with head wounds and no records indicate that he ever returned to the unit. Kerry took command of PCF-94 the next day. Alston never served a day under Kerry's command. In fact, Kerry received a replacement, Fred Short, on 28 February as a replacement for Alston. Now what does that tell us about Kerry and his Viet Nam narrative?
1. He and Alston conspired to deceive people about Alston's service under Kerry. That conspiracy was intended to give John Kerry cover against exactly the kind of campaign he faces from the other Swiftvets.
2. The "end of January" language on Kerry's website was intentionally vague in order to fuzzy up the timeline and keep Alston's true status a secret. Obviously, Sandusky remembers the dates well enough, and Kerry could easily have gotten them from him if he wanted to be as specific as his other dates on the timeline.
3. The DNC either were saps or actively participated in the conspiracy in order to assist Kerry in his Viet Nam mythology. Otherwise, why would they have allowed David Alston to speak at the convention about his experiences serving with John Kerry on the boat?
4. Kerry's band of brothers have some complicity in this cover-up as well. Those who served on PCF-94 surely remember that Alston never served under Kerry; Sandusky specifically recalls Peck being wounded and removed from command, but he wouldn't remember that Alston left at the same time?
5. One could argue that they served on the same boat, of course, and I look forward to that Clintonian parsing used in Kerry's defense. After holding Alston up as an expert on his leadership, he'll be hard pressed to explain how that expertise came to Alston from a hospital bed miles away from Kerry and his old PCF.
If this gets out to the mainstream media, this story kills Kerry's campaign. This isn't just a guy embellishing his war record -- this is a deliberate and longstanding attempt to mislead and defraud people by creating his own witnesses after the fact.That he could have done such a clumsy job should disqualify him for higher office on that basis alone.
End of email
The boys named "sue" (as in, I gotta sue somebody) just can't wait to take someone to trial. Sue Kerry and Sue Edwards and the thousands of legal contributors to the campaign. Let's change the conversation to health care, shall we? And see how the two trial lawyers answer the charges associated with malpractice suits escalating costs and the doctors who can't afford insurance because of low lifes like Edwards.
The Us pulled out 2 years before the fall of Saigon I believe. It still leaves him with a slim time frame though.
What parts are perjurous?
Perjury must be demonstratable. Show us specifically what he signed. Signing an affidavit where he simple says, "John Kerry is unfit for command" is not perjurous.
Sounds like the DA has his head on straight. Here's hoping he doesn't cave.
It's like the whole French Resistance thing. After 1945 all the Vichy lovers who ratted out friends suddenly became members of the Resistance.
He filed nothing false.
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