Posted on 08/24/2004 11:05:18 AM PDT by 1smallVoice
Could someone please tell me more about the United Church of Christ, the church that Christian Barack Osama belongs to?
I do not think he is gay.
He may be a Christian, but I heard that his father was a Muslim.
Sadly, the UCC contains the remnants of the once proud Congregationalist movement. [Congregationalism, in turn, represented the remnants of the old Puritan movement that, for all intents and purposes, founded this nation.]
Most modern-day UCs of C are World Council of Churches outlets, however, and utterly beholden to the Anti-Christ.
No big surprise there, I guess.
The UCC is the former Congregational Church from my understanding. Most of them are leaning quite to the liberal side theology wise
The UCC is one of the most liberal "Christian" denominations around. They have no problem with homosexuality or abortion, are against the death penalty, etc...
The Cavaliers founded this nation every bit as much as the Roundheads.
You are the third person who has said that in recent threads.
What have I missed about his gayness? or lack of it?
I do not think he is gay even if he looks gay. His church accepts being gay.
He is a big advocate of sodomite "marriage" and a big fan of partial birth abortion.
It's a worthless denomination.
Everybody burned witches back in those days.
Ever heard of Joan of Arc?
You are more likely to encounter a lesbian pastor in the United Church of Christ than just about any other "Christian" denomination. The UCC is not to be confused with the generally conservative Churches of Christ.
Oh, those crazy christians. What were they thinking?
"Everybody burned witches back in those days."
Do you think there's much risk in the modern practice of letting them live?
(re-read what you wrote :)
Generally conservative Churches of Christ? No way, never heard of a liberal Church of Christ.
as for the UCC, if Obama was a muslim he would be more Christian than being a member of the UCC, since muslims do believe in the old testament and the UCC does not.
312 years ago, they burned witches. Now, they ordain them.
Obama probably goes to a UCC church because of his education at Punahou School in Hawaii. Punahou was founded by New England Congregationalist missionaries in 1841. It is officially nonsectarian, but students go to chapel once a week and the chaplains have usually been ordained in the UCC. The school has also traditonally had informal ties to Congregationalist-founded schools and colleges in New England, such as Yale and Williams.
The religious education given by Punahou is now pretty much the sort of touchy feely stuff produced by the UCC. If you went to the school, it is traditional to both get married at the chapel there and be buried from there. So the chaplains are quite busy doing other services in addition to the normal student stuff.
Here's a link for more information:
http://www.punahou.edu/index.cfm?fuseaction=ig.page&PageID=383
"The Chapel
Chaplains:
The Reverend David Baumgart Turner
The Reverend Lauren Buck Medeiros
The Reverend Doctor Robert Ganung
Punahou is dedicated to honoring its Christian heritage in the midst of the school's treasured ethnically and religiously diverse academic community.
An emphasis on spiritual development pervades Punahou. Building on the spirituality inherent in Hawai`i and in Punahou's missionary history, the school integrates the spiritual dimension in the classroom (including Middle School Ethics courses and Academy SECR courses), through the Character Education Program, Chapel worship and worship-related experiences and, to a large extent, in the school's daily life.
Chaplains have important roles in the community's spiritual life. First and foremost, the Chaplains lead the planning and implementing of the Chapel Program. Historically, many faculty members and students have been involved in this planning and implementation. Each class or grade level has one Chapel experience in each "cycle" of classes. Chapels are designed, of course, to be age appropriate. Parents and family members are welcome to attend Chapels.
In the fall of 2002, we welcome Punahou's newest chaplain, the Reverend Doctor Bob Ganung. He comes to us having served as Chaplain and Chair of the Religion Department at Milton Academy in Milton, Massachusetts. He has also served as a Methodist Pastor.
The well-integrated Character Education Program, conceived by (former Punahou Chaplain) John Heidel and Marion Lyman-Mersereau, continues to reinforce character development throughout Punahou. The program incorporates Hawaiian values, global awareness and Christian principles. Seeking to engage the minds, hearts and hands of the students, the program is based on the premise that character is "knowing the good, loving the good, and doing the good." Importantly, explication of the program's "Value of the Month" in the classrooms, Chapel and the Currents newsletter services provide opportunities for exploration of specific ethical and moral values through the use of stories and other materials, both at school and at home.
Pastoral support to the Punahou community at large, including alumni and families of current members of the community, is a significant aspect of Chaplaincy at Punahou. In general, Chaplains work to "develop intellectual, academic and physical potential to the fullest degree, preparing them [students] for college and for challenges facing them now and in the future," and in Chapel events and more generally, the Chaplains support artistic creativity.
A more specific focus falls on these aspects of the mission:
"Develop moral and spiritual values consistent with the Christian principles on which Punahou was founded, affirming the worth and dignity of each individual."
"Appreciate cultural diversity and develop social responsibility."
For many decades, underlying principles of spiritual development have included a belief that spiritual values are fundamental to each individual, a life of service based on the love exemplified and taught by Jesus Christ is foundational to a Christian life, the Creator's universality implies a unity of all human beings and life, and drawing closer to the Divine draws one into more creative and meaningful relationships with others and engagement with life. Participation in the spiritual development programs of the school is by no means intended to require a denial of one's personal beliefs; Punahou is formally committed to affirming "the worth and dignity of each individual."
Thurston Memorial Chapel, located beside Ka Punahou (the new spring), continues to be a central spiritual resource in the Punahou community, providing a place of renewal, reflection, rejuvenation, meditation and worship."
"the old Puritan movement that, for all intents and purposes, founded this nation.
Are they the people who burned witches?"
Now their modern descendents would like to "burn" conservatives!
So was his step-father.
The Congregationalists were not Puritans.
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