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To: igoramus987

I consider it pointless to go after the 2nd Purple Heart. He's got the shrapnel in his leg. There likely was at least -some- enemy fire, even if it probably wasn't "intense". It likely meets the requirements for a Purple Heart. It's the Swiftvet's weakest case, and only telling once you've accepted the pattern of all the other lies and exaggerations. If you haven't accepted that pattern yet so that it can be put into that context, seeing it presented as an attempt to discredit Kerry just looks overly picky and discredits the severity and amount of evidence in the 1st and 3rd medals.

Actually, I kinda feel the same way about the Silver Star. It's the Swiftvet's 2nd weakest case. None of them were actually there - they're just offering their own judgment call of whether or not what Kerry did rises to the level of a Silver Star.

The real meat is in the 1st PH, 3rd PH and the Bronze Star. That's where Kerry's mendacity really shines through.

Qwinn


21 posted on 08/24/2004 2:33:53 AM PDT by Qwinn2
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To: Qwinn2
just because you have shrapnel doesn't mean it was from enemy fire! Kerry got that would from his OWN grenade from gross negligence! Rassman already talked about this in Kerry's biography
26 posted on 08/24/2004 2:53:28 AM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: Qwinn2
he real meat is in the 1st PH, 3rd PH and the Bronze Star. That's where Kerry's mendacity really shines through.

It was just a post to confirm that what Michelle Malkin was saying was true, and point out that every single medal has a question mark.

You are right...

Purple Heart 1 - Kerry campaign have just said that it is probably self inflicted. Also there is no after action report, like for the other 2 Purple Hearts, which is always required after hostile combat action.
c.f. link
"Kerry Purple Heart "Spot" Reports [pdf: 210kb] This file contains after-action ("spot") reports from two of the combat actions in which John Kerry was wounded."

Purple Heart 3 - You can't get a Purple Heart for a bruise. The butt wound occurred earlier in the day in an unrelated incident. However the butt wound appears in Kerry's citation.
27 posted on 08/24/2004 2:53:44 AM PDT by igoramus987
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To: Qwinn2
"---It's the Swiftvet's 2nd weakest case."

All this was to get our attention and show what and who Kerry really is--!

The real show is on it's way.

Exposure of Kerry's betrayal.

MSM is saying -- these are old wounds, this is digging up old feelings. Why can't we get past the Vietnam war.

We will never get past Vietnam until our men and women are vindicated. And Kerry owes this to the veterans. Publically. Kerry must apoligize for all his lies. Acknowledge all the hurt he inflicted. Then we can all move on.

Maybe.

28 posted on 08/24/2004 3:01:40 AM PDT by malia (---if we wait until the threat is imminent, we will have waited too long.)
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To: Qwinn2
If any one of the three was unearned, then doesn't that make Kerry the equivalent of a deserter?

This is a very serious development against Kerry.

55 posted on 08/24/2004 5:03:30 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: Qwinn2
The real meat is in the 1st PH, 3rd PH and the Bronze Star. That's where Kerry's mendacity really shines through.

The Silver Star too. Rood's recent story supports the Swift Boat Veterans in that Kerry did not beach in the face of numberically superior enemy while under intense fire.

The mendacity is really the sum of all -- no single one of these would break him, on its own. But the sum of his actions in Vietnam and on his return shines a bright light on his character. He would sell out ANYBODY to advance his personal ambition.

72 posted on 08/24/2004 5:56:54 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Qwinn2; FesterUSMC; Fredgoblu; HamiltonJay

I doubt that Kerry shrapnel in his body. Per New York Sun, Kerry had an MRI in February. MRI's are not allowed for patients with shrapnel.

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The New York Sun March 30, 2004...

"In a conference call with reporters yesterday, Mr. Kerry's surgeon, Bertram Zarins, said the senator has a partial tear of the subscapularis tendon in his rotator cuff. Dr. Zarins said the injury stemmed from a mishap in January on the Kerry campaign bus in Iowa."

""The senator was walking down the aisle and the bus suddenly lurched. Senator Kerry grabbed a railing and wrenched his shoulder," Dr. Zarins said. Mr. Kerry later complained of shoulder pain. In February, he underwent an MRI test that revealed the tear."

"Dr. Zarins said he and Mr. Kerry initially opted for a wait-and-see approach regarding the shoulder, hoping that the pain would abate. It did not."

.....

From "Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI)" at http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/article248.html

"Patients need to tell their physician if their body contains any ferromagnetic objects such as shrapnel, a pacemaker, or aneurysm clips. These patients cannot undergo MRI study. Ferromagnetic objects are attracted by the MRI's magnet."


80 posted on 08/24/2004 6:07:16 AM PDT by Tamzee (Kerry is The Meringue Candidate.... saccharine sweet stories with no actual substance.)
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