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Kerry stands by '71 atrocities claim Campaign official insists Democrat was right about war
World Net Daily ^ | 8/23/04

Posted on 08/23/2004 5:23:09 AM PDT by mcar

WASHINGTON – John Kerry stands by his claims in 1971 before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that U.S. soldiers in Vietnam regularly, and as a matter of official policy, committed war atrocities against innocent civilians, according to a top campaign official.

John Hurley, national director of Veterans for Kerry, denied on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, that Kerry had overstated the case against the war when he returned home as a spokesman for the Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

A new ad by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth targets Kerry's comments in 1971 as giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

"John Kerry testified in 1971 to atrocities being committed in Vietnam," said Hurley. "So also, the Toledo Blade has won a Pulitzer prize this year for the reporting on atrocities in Vietnam. General Tommy Franks has said John Kerry spoke the truth when he testified in 1971. The My Lai massacre was a fact of life back then. What they have done (in this ad) is they've taken a piece of John Kerry's testimony, left out the part that says he was reporting, repeating the testimony that was given in Detroit at the Winter Soldier hearings, and presented it as his. And that's wrong."

Kerry, however, was the national spokesman for the group that conducted the widely discredited investigation. He was also an active participant in the hearings, not just a reporter taking notes. In 1971, Kerry also implicated himself in the commission of war crimes and atrocities.

In fact, Kerry began his testimony to the committee stating that he was representing all those veterans who participated in the hearings.

"I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command," he told the committee.

Kerry went on to explain: "They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country."

Kerry added: "The country doesn't know it yet, but it has created a monster, a monster in the form of millions of men who have been taught to deal and to trade in violence, and who are given the chance to die for the biggest nothing in history; men who have returned with a sense of anger and a sense of betrayal which no one has yet grasped."

Yesterday, Hurly agreed with the testimony and said Kerry stands behind it.

"Absolutely," Hurley said. "He's a leader. He came back, and he spoke the truth."

Asked repeatedly by Wallace if Kerry had overstated what happened in his testimony in 1971, Hurley emphatically said no.

"John Kerry says that he regrets the use of the language that may have offended some people," Hurley said. "He is not -- he stands behind the facts of his testimony. He stands behind the facts that atrocities were being committed in Vietnam."

In fact, some of those presenting horror stories at the Jane Fonda-sponsored Winter Soldier Investigation in Detroit had misrepresented themselves as Vietnam War vets – even using the names of other veterans who did not attend the hearings. Several veterans provided sworn affidavits that others spoke in their names.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1971; election; goodbye; johnhurley; kerry; swiftboatveterans; vvaw
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1 posted on 08/23/2004 5:23:09 AM PDT by mcar
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To: mcar

Sweet, he's giving us the rope we're going to use to hang him with.


2 posted on 08/23/2004 5:24:21 AM PDT by jpl ("Go balloons, go ballons! Confetti, confetti, where's the confetti?" - Don Mischer)
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To: mcar
Meehan said the same on Scarborough Country last night, as well.
3 posted on 08/23/2004 5:26:17 AM PDT by Use It Or Lose It (Because JOHN KERRY LIED, how many men died?)
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To: mcar
"He stands behind the facts that atrocities were being committed in Vietnam."

Yeah. The awarding of three unearned Purple Hearts. :)

4 posted on 08/23/2004 5:26:26 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: mcar
General Tommy Franks has said John Kerry spoke the truth when he testified in 1971. The My Lai massacre was a fact of life back then

Why then were more soldiers not court martialed as a result?
5 posted on 08/23/2004 5:29:12 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: mcar
"He is not -- he stands behind the facts of his testimony. He stands behind the facts that atrocities were being committed in Vietnam."

He also said he took part in them

He also said it was a civil war etc etc and we had no right intervening

Now he says he was DEFENDING the USA
6 posted on 08/23/2004 5:29:17 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: zot; Interesting Times; Former Military Chick

Bump & read


7 posted on 08/23/2004 5:29:26 AM PDT by GreyFriar (3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead)
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To: mcar; zot; Interesting Times; Former Military Chick

Bump & read


8 posted on 08/23/2004 5:30:21 AM PDT by GreyFriar (3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead)
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To: jpl

Egads! This guy is not helping Kerry at all. Perhaps we can get him on other shows.


9 posted on 08/23/2004 5:32:31 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: mcar
What they have done (in this ad) is they've taken a piece of John Kerry's testimony, left out the part that says he was reporting, repeating the testimony that was given in Detroit at the Winter Soldier hearings, and presented it as his. And that's wrong."

Does the SBV ad do this?

10 posted on 08/23/2004 5:32:31 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Do you just think I fell off a turnip truck?)
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To: jpl

Keep feeding the moron rope and when it comes to the bitter end, yanking him up short like a junkyard dog, he'll be shocked and awed.


11 posted on 08/23/2004 5:33:21 AM PDT by gunnygail (Expelling that hot spicy Thai food this morning was SEARED, SEARED into my brain!)
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To: boxerblues
Why then were more soldiers not court martialed as a result?

How many FBI agents were prosecuted after Waco and Ruby Ridge? I'm not saying Kerry is right but the absence of prosecutions doesn't prove much.

12 posted on 08/23/2004 5:33:31 AM PDT by Grut
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To: mcar
I found it interesting in the Swifties Ad that Kerry pronounces Genghis incorrectly - or at least differently than I have ever heard it pronounced. If one were astute enough to draw that analogy, you would think you could pronounce the words. Pretty good indication someone wrote the speech for him and he was just the stooge that attached his name to it.
13 posted on 08/23/2004 5:33:51 AM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: mcar

Why "IF" JFKerry stands behind, beside, and in front of his satanic words in 1971, does he not use them and his "famous" book as his campaign platform.


14 posted on 08/23/2004 5:34:03 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: mcar

THIS is big. The sKerry folks are just so 60s. This will end his chance of being the prez... if he ever had one.


15 posted on 08/23/2004 5:34:53 AM PDT by BillyCrockett
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Kerry stands by '71 atrocities claim Campaign official insists Democrat was right about the war.

Then why didn't he report it at the time? Senator Kerry was derlict in his sworn duty then and cannot be trusted to be in command now.

16 posted on 08/23/2004 5:36:43 AM PDT by yoe (When is a wound not a wound? When you are wound up in self-serving, self-aggrandizing efforts.....)
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To: mcar

Thank you for clearing that up for us, Mr. Hurley. I wonder if they've learned some sort of lesson from the "Christmas in Cambodia" ferry tale..namely, just admit it and hope it goes away.


17 posted on 08/23/2004 5:37:05 AM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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To: BillyCrockett

IF and I mean IF the MSM ever gets it out there. It'll likely be buried in a tiny column on page 16, in section Y, near the classified ads looking for people to pay higher taxes.


18 posted on 08/23/2004 5:37:10 AM PDT by gunnygail (Expelling that hot spicy Thai food this morning was SEARED, SEARED into my brain!)
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To: Belisaurius

ferry=fairy, though he's now claiming he was "ferrying" all sorts of spooks to the border.


19 posted on 08/23/2004 5:38:15 AM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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To: jpl

My gosh, who ran the Viet Nam War?? Jenn-giss Khan??

LOL, couldn't resist.


20 posted on 08/23/2004 5:39:02 AM PDT by Stag (Gosh I'm grouchy on Monday mornings)
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