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Kerry stands by '71 atrocities claim Campaign official insists Democrat was right about war
World Net Daily ^ | 8/23/04

Posted on 08/23/2004 5:23:09 AM PDT by mcar

WASHINGTON – John Kerry stands by his claims in 1971 before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that U.S. soldiers in Vietnam regularly, and as a matter of official policy, committed war atrocities against innocent civilians, according to a top campaign official.

John Hurley, national director of Veterans for Kerry, denied on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, that Kerry had overstated the case against the war when he returned home as a spokesman for the Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

A new ad by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth targets Kerry's comments in 1971 as giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

"John Kerry testified in 1971 to atrocities being committed in Vietnam," said Hurley. "So also, the Toledo Blade has won a Pulitzer prize this year for the reporting on atrocities in Vietnam. General Tommy Franks has said John Kerry spoke the truth when he testified in 1971. The My Lai massacre was a fact of life back then. What they have done (in this ad) is they've taken a piece of John Kerry's testimony, left out the part that says he was reporting, repeating the testimony that was given in Detroit at the Winter Soldier hearings, and presented it as his. And that's wrong."

Kerry, however, was the national spokesman for the group that conducted the widely discredited investigation. He was also an active participant in the hearings, not just a reporter taking notes. In 1971, Kerry also implicated himself in the commission of war crimes and atrocities.

In fact, Kerry began his testimony to the committee stating that he was representing all those veterans who participated in the hearings.

"I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command," he told the committee.

Kerry went on to explain: "They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country."

Kerry added: "The country doesn't know it yet, but it has created a monster, a monster in the form of millions of men who have been taught to deal and to trade in violence, and who are given the chance to die for the biggest nothing in history; men who have returned with a sense of anger and a sense of betrayal which no one has yet grasped."

Yesterday, Hurly agreed with the testimony and said Kerry stands behind it.

"Absolutely," Hurley said. "He's a leader. He came back, and he spoke the truth."

Asked repeatedly by Wallace if Kerry had overstated what happened in his testimony in 1971, Hurley emphatically said no.

"John Kerry says that he regrets the use of the language that may have offended some people," Hurley said. "He is not -- he stands behind the facts of his testimony. He stands behind the facts that atrocities were being committed in Vietnam."

In fact, some of those presenting horror stories at the Jane Fonda-sponsored Winter Soldier Investigation in Detroit had misrepresented themselves as Vietnam War vets – even using the names of other veterans who did not attend the hearings. Several veterans provided sworn affidavits that others spoke in their names.


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KEYWORDS: 1971; election; goodbye; johnhurley; kerry; swiftboatveterans; vvaw
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To: stockpirate
Thanks for all the updates regarding info : )

Guess this is somewhat old ground for you..ie several months old at least if not a year.

Myself,,have had a knawing something concerning Kerry's restore relations with Vietnam thingy..and John McCain.

Looking back...Hubbard is liasoning with the North Vietnamese over POW's and timing things with rally's and god knows what else....with FBI/CIA on the trail.

Do you get a sense that books where closed on all of this by someone?

VVAW are having rally's....but clealry their is more going on here.

Any comments Stock?

101 posted on 08/23/2004 6:59:37 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed

You can get the files at
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=VVAWFBI

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102 posted on 08/23/2004 7:00:56 PM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: mcar
This article has appeared on FR..yet is a good refresher for those reading allong this thread;

John Kerry: The Chameleon Senator
By Ted Sampley
U.S. Veteran Dispatch
October-December 1996 Issue

Link

Excerpt:

Sen. John F. Kerry, chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, is one of the key figures pushing for normalization. Kerry is currently on a visit to Vietnam where he has been doing two things: (1) praising the Vietnamese effusively for granting access to their war archives and (2) telling the press that there's no believable evidence to back up the stories of live POWs still being held.
"Ironically, that very kind of live-POW evidence has been brought to Kerry's own committee on a regular basis over the past year, and he has repeatedly sought to impeach its value. Moreover, Kerry and his allies on the committee - such as Sens. John McCain, Nancy Kassebaum and Tom Daschle - have worked to block much of this evidence from being made public."

In December of 1992, not long after Kerry was quoted in the world press stating "President Bush should reward Vietnam within a month for its increased cooperation in accounting for American MIAs," Vietnam announced it had granted Colliers International, based in Boston, Massachusetts, a contract worth billions designating Colliers International as the exclusive real estate agent representing Vietnam.

That deal alone put Colliers in a position to make tens of millions of dollars on the rush to upgrade Vietnam's ports, railroads, highways, government buildings, etc. C. Stewart Forbes, Chief Executive Officer of Colliers International, is Kerry's cousin. Kerry was portrayed in The New Yorker as a proud Vietnam veteran and "war hero" who, as chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, dared to take on and defeat the "mendacious POW lobby."

In its 1993 final report, the Select Committee determined that live U.S. prisoners of war were left behind in the hands of the Vietnamese after the end of the war. The committee also claimed it found no "compelling" evidence proving the POWs remain alive today. Kerry's committee stopped there without answering three of the most profound questions of the entire Senate POW/MIA investigation: What happened to those U.S. prisoners of war who the Select Committee said were alive and in the hands of the Vietnamese but not released at the end of the war? If they are dead, where are their remains? Who is responsible for their deaths?

No doubt most of the Establishment press will continue to obscure from the public and themselves the raw truth about Kerry, the communist Vietnamese and the POW/MIA issue because it is politically convenient. There is also no doubt the POW/MIA families and Vietnam veteran activists know the truth and recognize Kerry for what he truly is--a traitor, hypocrite, liar and chameleon.

103 posted on 08/23/2004 7:31:59 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed

I am not a Vietnam Vet, but after reading this thread I'd say that Kerry is looking like one bronzed rotisserie chicken, with a cast of thousands trying to help to turn the wheel ever so slowly...and deserving it!


104 posted on 08/23/2004 7:49:48 PM PDT by kcar (www.TheUNsucks.com)
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To: uncbob
"He is not -- he stands behind the facts of his testimony. He stands behind the facts that atrocities were being committed in Vietnam."

He also said he took part in them



I heard Oliver North say to Jean Hanity: "There's only two truth to John Scarry's testimony. Either he's a liar, or he's a war criminal!!!"
105 posted on 08/23/2004 8:29:31 PM PDT by danamco
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To: Light Speed
The files' March "disappearance" smelled like Nicosia calling Kerry's staff and saying, "I'll be out, the door will be unlocked."

The files are available at WinterSoldier.com and an email offer of a $10 CD passed through in the last 24 hours.

All the King's botox and all the King's spin
won't put Humpty Kerry back together again:


106 posted on 08/23/2004 8:53:51 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: All
Justifiable Homicide:

Coldblooded Murder:


107 posted on 08/23/2004 8:55:43 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: PhilDragoo; Smartass


108 posted on 08/23/2004 9:37:57 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed
THANKS FOR THE PING!


Want to join in the fun? Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!

109 posted on 08/23/2004 9:45:53 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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