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DON'T GET SPUN! Part 1: True Context of 2/15/00 Bush-McCain Clash In Kerry Smear Ad
CNN ^ | February 15, 2000 | CNN Transcripts; Bush, McCain, Keyes, Larry King

Posted on 08/22/2004 10:40:16 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee

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To: L.N. Smithee
Let me tell you what really went over the line. Governor Bush had an event, and he paid of it, and standing -- and stood next to a spokesman for a fringe veterans' group. That fringe veteran said that John McCain had abandoned the veterans.

Let's talk about honor, John McCain. You have SOLD OUT - abandoned your party and your name is being used by the decitful traitorous coward that is John Kerry. He's taking your reputation down along with him. I suggest you denounce John Kerry as quickly as possible.

21 posted on 08/22/2004 11:02:01 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (CEO, VRWC: When you think treason, don't think Benedict Arnold - think JOHN 'Buzzard' KERRY!)
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To: L.N. Smithee

Thanks, I was wondering what Bush said.


22 posted on 08/22/2004 11:08:29 PM PDT by tiki
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To: L.N. Smithee

McCain-McGreevey perfectly Gay toghether!


23 posted on 08/22/2004 11:10:04 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: L.N. Smithee
I have found the following system helpful, over the years:

If I see McCain's lips moving... I assume he is lying about something.

If I see McCain's lips moving while on CNN... I assume he is lying about a fellow Republican.

This method has proven reliable -- nay: virtually infallible -- for over twenty years. :)

24 posted on 08/22/2004 11:17:48 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KingNo155

What?


25 posted on 08/22/2004 11:18:01 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hey, KERRY! We said it to Saddam, and now to you -- If you have nothing to hide, QUIT HIDING IT!)
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To: Cold Heat

I believe you're referencing "Brave New World" by Huxley. In it he had a character state that after so many repititions (somewhere around 68-70k) something would become true.


26 posted on 08/22/2004 11:25:44 PM PDT by Bogey78O (John Kerry: Better than Ted Kennedy!)
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To: rocklobster11

Unlikely, every avowed liberal thinks his full speech is a work of art.


27 posted on 08/22/2004 11:26:48 PM PDT by Bogey78O (John Kerry: Better than Ted Kennedy!)
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To: WOSG
The time is now for the republicans to get McCain to go on national TV stating He supports our President Kerry is wrong about the smear campaign TO STOP USING HIM AND Kerry WAS WRONG ABOUT HIS SENATE TESTIMONY,IT HURT OUR SOLDIERS STILL IN VIETNAM. THEY MUST MAKE THIS HAPPEN NOW!!!
28 posted on 08/22/2004 11:26:58 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: Cold Heat; CWOJackson

If McCain had an ounce of honesty in him, he would denounce the MoveOn.org's out there, instead of trying to look like a political stooge by denouncing the Swift Boat Vets ad for all the wrong reasons.


29 posted on 08/22/2004 11:27:00 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: Bogey78O

That's the one! Thanks. Brain is not working anymore. Too tired.


30 posted on 08/22/2004 11:28:31 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: CWOJackson

REPUBLICAN"S PARTY must do something about McCAIN NOW!!!!!


31 posted on 08/22/2004 11:28:33 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I don't know what is wrong with him.

Perhaps he is damaged goods, as rumored.

32 posted on 08/22/2004 11:29:55 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
"If McCain had an ounce of honesty in him..."

Need we go any further. We have to face facts, the only way Kerry's people could run that ad is with McCains concent. McCain is like pat buchanan...out for himself ONLY!

33 posted on 08/22/2004 11:31:43 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: patriciamary

Why do his voters keep electing him? It's time for a change.


34 posted on 08/22/2004 11:32:34 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

We really don't know what McCain is doing at this point. I think that Smithee is correct to the extent that the Dems believe that a wedge can be driven between Bush and McCain on this issue.

However, we should wish for the best possible outcome here. That would be that the Dem ads push McCain to the point where he reads Unfit for Command. McCain might just change his tune.

If McCain joined Dole going after Kerry on this issue, then the jig is truly up!


35 posted on 08/22/2004 11:33:50 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Bogey78O

You don't go around giving free beer to minors. That was mistake #1 McCain made. I don't care if he tried to distance himself from that assertion. His campaign staff should have been taken to the woodshed, but weren't.


36 posted on 08/22/2004 11:35:52 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: the_Watchman
"We really don't know what McCain is doing at this point."

Yes we do...he's not demanding the Kerry campaign cease the ad. If he did they would have to pull it.

37 posted on 08/22/2004 11:36:06 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: patriciamary

Let's hope McCain uses his time on the podium of the Republican National Convention to do what you suggest. It would be sufficient to turn the tide.


38 posted on 08/22/2004 11:37:00 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: CWOJackson

Why would they pull it? They didn't pull the Swiftvet picture from the website when requested. The Dems don't play by the same rules.

Employing McCain's face on these ads would just give more punch when McCain goes after them publicly. Let's hope that that is what happens.


39 posted on 08/22/2004 11:39:54 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Cold Heat

McCain already drove a wedge in between him and President Bush, as McCain denounced the SBVFT ad, and not a single damn moveon.org ad. This exchange was edited way too damn much. Most of the comments didn't even flow all together like it did in the ad. (if you read the full transcript). This Dem ad seeks to drive that wedge between Bush and McCain even further, to the point McCain is a liability for Bush.


40 posted on 08/22/2004 11:41:39 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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