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Dole Questions Kerry's Vietnam Wounds
Yahoo News ^ | 8/22/04 | Pete Yost

Posted on 08/22/2004 1:59:13 PM PDT by kattracks

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To: kattracks
"This is the moment of truth for President Bush," Edwards said in North Carolina. "The American people have to hear directly that these ads need to come off the air."

Translation: "The First Amendment does not apply to U.S. citizens who oppose Democrats."

61 posted on 08/22/2004 3:01:16 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: kattracks
...running mate John Edwards (news - web sites) said Bush needs to tell the group to pull its ads...

In other words he should do as Hitler would have done? Or Stalin or Mao or Fidel?

And if they refused to obey the President's order what then? Do like Clinton and send someone around to kill their cats?

62 posted on 08/22/2004 3:02:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
here is the quote:

When I surfaced, all the swift boats had left, and I was alone taking fire from both banks. To avoid the incoming fire, I repeatedly swam under water as long as I could hold my breath, attempting to make it to the north bank of the river. I thought I would die right there. The odds were against me avoiding the incoming fire and, even if I made it out of the river, I thought I'd be captured and executed. Kerry must have seen me in the water and directed his driver, Del Sandusky, to turn the boat around. Kerry's boat ran up to me in the water, bow on, and I was able to climb up a cargo net to the lip of the deck. But, because I was nearly upside down, I couldn't make it over the edge of the deck. This left me hanging out in the open, a perfect target. John, already wounded by the explosion that threw me off his boat, came out onto the bow, exposing himself to the fire directed at us from the jungle, and pulled me aboard.

It is taken from Rassman's own account in the Wall Street Journal: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005460

Also note that Rassman said all boats had fled the scene, which is not true, unless Rassman was thrown from the boat while Kerry was fleeing the scene, because the other boats stayed with PCF3

63 posted on 08/22/2004 3:02:30 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: kattracks
"Senator Kerry carries shrapnel in his thigh as distinct from President Bush who carries two fillings in his teeth from his service in the Alabama National Guard, which seems to be his only time that he showed up," John Podesta, former chief of staff in the Clinton White House, said on ABC's "This Week."

Bush served stateside in the Guard during the Vietnam years.

Fact: GWB served long and honorably, having joined up in 1968 and was Honorably Discharged in 1973. That is not a short, "hiding out" service. And it was not without risk:

Ex-pilot says Bush put in for Vietnam

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Air Guard pilot duty required up to 2½ years of active-duty service for training, he said. Draftees served for two years, overwhelmingly in the Army.

Air National Guard units began flying supply missions in Vietnam in 1965, and the Air Guard was mobilized twice during the Vietnam War. Guard aviators in five squadrons flying the F-100 Super Sabre fighter-bomber were called up for duty in Vietnam in 1968.

"Avoiding service?" Campenni said. "Yeah, tell that to those guys."

Simply flying tactical military aircraft is dangerous, he said.

"Six of those with whom I served in those years never made their 30th birthdays because they died in crashes flying air-defense missions" in the United States, Campenni said.

"Our Texas [Air National Guard] unit lost several planes right there in Houston during Lt. Bush's tenure, with fatalities," he said.

"Just strapping on one of those obsolescing F-102s was risking one's life."

64 posted on 08/22/2004 3:07:18 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: kattracks
Among the allegations is that Kerry lied about being in neutral Cambodia on Christmas Eve 1968.

"I don't think anyone knows for sure whether or not they were in Cambodia that night, but they were near Cambodia on Christmas Eve," John Hurley, who heads a pro-Kerry veterans group, said on "Fox News Sunday." "He was five miles into Cambodia on a different occasion."

Kerry has many times now told an absolutely ridiculous and patently false story which Hurley's vague mumble in no way rescues. There's a fine analysis on the Apocalypse Kerry thread.

65 posted on 08/22/2004 3:08:15 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: utahagen

When did she do this? Are you sure you are not taking about Joan Baez?


66 posted on 08/22/2004 3:09:53 PM PDT by rogator
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To: onyx

That is exactly what I told my husband when I read the stuff that Dole said.


67 posted on 08/22/2004 3:11:30 PM PDT by tiki
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To: airborne

Dole was in the studio with Wolf. I watched it and my husband and I were cheering him during his whole appearance.


68 posted on 08/22/2004 3:11:39 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: kattracks
"Senator Kerry carries shrapnel in his thigh as distinct from President Bush who carries two fillings in his teeth from his service in the Alabama National Guard, which seems to be his only time that he showed up," John Podesta, former chief of staff in the Clinton White House, said on ABC's "This Week."

The record shows that he did show up which is more than that other liar you worked for did. The one who lied to get out of the commitment he signed to serve.

Or are you saying that National Guardsmen don't deserve dental care? That would be more in line with the current liar you are hacking for who never saw a defense bill he couldn't vote against.

69 posted on 08/22/2004 3:12:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Ironically, they were defending Kerry against charges he was a war criminal for shooting the teenage Cong in the back in the Silver Star episode.


70 posted on 08/22/2004 3:14:17 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: rogator
Sweet! what Bob Dole said. For Kerry to apologize for his 1971 testimony would be a momentum shifter, so he won't, but it is a perfectly reasonable request, especially giving voice to what many veterans are genuinely feeling. The unanswered demands for an apology draw a little blood.
71 posted on 08/22/2004 3:15:23 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: rocklobster11
You have the same take on it as I do. I posted this the other day:

96 posted on 08/19/2004 7:49:14 PM CDT by arasina (So there.)

72 posted on 08/22/2004 3:15:34 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: DaveMSmith
Devastating news piece for Kerry. ... I give it a week.

Do you think Kerry will suddenly decide he's a "Gay American" and drop out?

73 posted on 08/22/2004 3:16:25 PM PDT by Martin Tell (I will not be terrified or Kerrified.)
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To: rocklobster11

Thank you so very much for your trouble!!! You have been very kind. I have marked it.


74 posted on 08/22/2004 3:20:00 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: beyond the sea
Did you or anyone hear George Will tell the country and George S. on ABC earlier that the Swift Boat Vets are going to put out a 28 minute piece in September on the POW's and John Kerry?

Wouldn't the 60 day rule prohibit that?

75 posted on 08/22/2004 3:20:35 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
If you want to hear a terrific account of the actions that occurred that day from someone who was there click here. Scroll down to mid-page center-right. "Steve Gardner (viet nam veteran)" It's about 40 minutes with no commercials. It may not answer your question but it answers a lot of others.
76 posted on 08/22/2004 3:21:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: arasina
The question I have, is why did the story about Rassman being on a different boat change to being on Kerry's boat? Originally, the story was that Rassman was on another boat (see, One Boat or Two?). Then the story changed to him being on Kerry's boat. I think that the story had to be altered in order so that Kerry could say he bruised his arm when a mine went off near his boat, knocking Rassman overboard.
77 posted on 08/22/2004 3:21:17 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: tiki

GOOD!
GMTA...


78 posted on 08/22/2004 3:21:23 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: TigersEye

Thank you, TigersEye. I will do so, and I pass it on to other folks.


79 posted on 08/22/2004 3:22:42 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: EGPWS
However, want in one hand and %$#$ in the other and see which one fills first!

Ahahah - my dad's favorite saying...

80 posted on 08/22/2004 3:23:35 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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