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Gen. Giap: Kerry's Group Helped Hanoi Defeat U.S. (Feb. 10, 2004)
NewsMax.com ^ | Tuesday, Feb. 10, 2004 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 08/22/2004 12:14:00 PM PDT by dennisw

Tuesday, Feb. 10, 2004 10:25 p.m. EST

Gen. Giap: Kerry's Group Helped Hanoi Defeat U.S.

The North Vietnamese general in charge of the military campaign that finally drove the U.S. out of South Vietnam in 1975 credited a group led by Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry with helping him achieve victory.

In his 1985 memoir about the war, Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap wrote that if it weren't for organizations like Kerry's Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Hanoi would have surrendered to the U.S. - according to Fox News Channel war historian Oliver North.

That's why, he predicted on Tuesday, the Vietnam War issue "is going to blow up in Kerry's face."

"People are going to remember Gen. Giap saying if it weren't for these guys [Kerry's group], we would have lost," North told radio host Sean Hannity.

"The Vietnam Veterans Against the War encouraged people to desert, encouraged people to mutiny - some used what they wrote to justify fragging officers," noted the former Marine lieutenant colonel, who earned two purple hearts in Vietnam.

"John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands," North said.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: commiesforkerry; giap; hanoijohn; northvietnam
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1 posted on 08/22/2004 12:14:01 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Our Next President if America doesn't wake up!



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2 posted on 08/22/2004 12:17:33 PM PDT by woodb01
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To: dennisw

Who cares! We need free health care and the economy SUCKS! /sarcasm


3 posted on 08/22/2004 12:18:29 PM PDT by xrp
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To: dennisw

I thought North was defending Kerry just a few weeks back. Hmmmmm.....


4 posted on 08/22/2004 12:19:07 PM PDT by EggsAckley (........."YO" is "OY" spelled backwards.........)
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To: dennisw

Another foreign leader who supports kerry for president?


5 posted on 08/22/2004 12:19:47 PM PDT by tioga (Flush the johns in '04!)
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To: woodb01

1971

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6 posted on 08/22/2004 12:21:04 PM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: dennisw
Oh that is just TOO good, let's see that again!

In his 1985 memoir about the war, Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap wrote that if it weren't for organizations like Kerry's Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Hanoi would have surrendered to the U.S. - according to Fox News Channel war historian Oliver North.


7 posted on 08/22/2004 12:22:16 PM PDT by TLI ( . . . ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA . . . . . .)
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To: dennisw

Could someone provide the actual quotes--in English?

I would like to get a professional sign created for mounting on my truck.

Need help with the Gen actual statement.

Thanks


8 posted on 08/22/2004 12:23:29 PM PDT by petertare (truth, justice and the American way)
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To: xrp
yep it will all be free, yep they said so in Punch magazine in 1948, trust them


9 posted on 08/22/2004 12:23:51 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: dennisw
Check this out!!
10 posted on 08/22/2004 12:29:08 PM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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To: PISANO

THe truth!!!


11 posted on 08/22/2004 12:32:07 PM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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Is that a real Doonesbery from 1971?


12 posted on 08/22/2004 12:32:36 PM PDT by tophat9000
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13 posted on 08/22/2004 12:34:34 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: tophat9000

Is that a real Doonesbery from 1971?.......


Yes, as far as I can tell. Gary Trudeau was a hungry young cartoonist and I think he went Yale same as Kerry. Trudeua did cartoons in college,


14 posted on 08/22/2004 12:37:50 PM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: dennisw

BUMP FOR THE SUPPORT OF SWIFT VETS HERE... http://www.swiftvets.com/


16 posted on 08/22/2004 1:04:04 PM PDT by freddiedavis
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To: dennisw

How We Won the War
by Vo Nguyen Giap

Excerpt from: http://www.war-stories.com/Hayden.htm
By Gene Kuentzler: The question raised by Gary Beaver, "Do you have any data on actual U.S. troops, by name who were killed as a direct result of Fonda's actions?" can be answered by reading the book written by General Giap, Commander of NVA forces. Giap clearly indicated that NVA troops were without sufficient supplies, and had been continually defeated time and again.
By 1968, NVA morale was at it's lowest point ever. The plans for "Tet" '68 was their last desperate attempt to achieve a success, in an effort to boost the NVA morale. When it was over, General Giap and the NVA viewed the Tet '68 offensive as a failure, they were on their knees and had prepared to negotiate a surrender.
At that time, there were fewer than 10,000 U.S. casualties, the Vietnam War was about to end, as the NVA was prepared to accept their defeat. Then, they heard Walter Cronkite (former CBS News anchor and correspondent) on TV proclaiming the success of the Tet '68 offensive by the communist NVA. They were completely and totally amazed at hearing that the US Embassy had been overrun. In reality, The NVA had not gained access to the Embassy--there were some VC who had been killed on the grassy lawn, but they hadn't gained access. Further reports indicated the riots and protesting on the streets of America.
According to Giap, these distorted reports were inspirational to the NVA. They changed their plans from a negotiated surrender and decided instead, they only needed to persevere for one more hour, day, week, month, eventually the protesters in American would help them to achieve a victory they knew they could not win on the battlefield. Remember, this decision was made at a time when the U.S. casualties were fewer than 10,000, at the end of 1967, beginning of 1968.
Today, there are 58,000 names on the Vietnam Wall Memorial that was built with the donations made by the American public. Although Giap did not mention each and every protester's name in his book, many of us will never forget the 58,000 names on the Wall. We will also never forget the names of those who helped in placing those additional 48,000 names there: Bill, Jane, Tom, Cronkite, and others.
Those of us who rotated prior to Walter Cronkite's report on "Tet-68" can clearly state, "We were still winning when I left!"

Gene Kuentzler, '66-67
S-3 Operations,


17 posted on 08/22/2004 1:04:11 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (GEORGE WASHINGTON is nothing like a communist tyrant as stated by Kerry.)
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http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&q=%22How+We+Won+the+War%22+kerry&btnG=Search


18 posted on 08/22/2004 1:10:39 PM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: jeffolie

check out the bias of the reviewer that couldn't find the memoir. We need to see if it exists for outselves.


19 posted on 08/22/2004 1:13:11 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: jeffolie

I checked Urban Legends and came up with nada. Amazon has "How We Won the War"
by Vo Nguyen Giap on sale for $7,00.


20 posted on 08/22/2004 1:19:31 PM PDT by Temple Owl
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