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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA

I think we should close our borders, legalize the illegals that are already here... Be extremely harsh on new illegals, and then implement an immigration policy that functions as a brain drain on the rest of the world.

In other words, we increase immigration permits for entrepreneurs, inventors, skilled professionals, and scientists.

We drain the foreign brain trust and bring them to America. We outsource the low paying jobs, which means less incentive for unskilled illegals to sneak in here, and we focus on owning the top management of every major industry in the world.

Or something nefarious like that.


28 posted on 08/22/2004 1:12:56 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: coconutt2000
I think we should close our borders, legalize the illegals that are already here... Be extremely harsh on new illegals

Never happen, not in this climate. Our only hope is to put pressure on the GOP to strengthen the border. Use the Dems to increase enforcement on businesses that hire them, and point out the Al Qaeda that are slipping in over what isn't enforced. Hopefully in the middle will be trapped those who want to come back and forth over the border. Those that want to stay will anyways, they don't need to be legalized. The LAST thing in the world we want is that (again) because we won't get the other two things you mentioned and you'll end up making things way WAY worse.

I've got a way better idea than the ones you mentioned about importing people,

Reduce welfare eligability and time one can be on it.

Ditto for unemployment benefits,

Question conventional wisdom and push for a LOWERING of the minimum wage.

Lessen regulation on work hours and overtime allowed.

We have a whole lot of people here who aren't working to their capacity. As Rush would say, we've way to many "takers" and not enough "producers" in our nation. The constant importation of undercutting workers outside of the semi-socialist system will only result in turning America the beautiful into a 3rd World nation. We must fix the system, not bring people in from outside of it.

30 posted on 08/22/2004 1:21:26 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Dreier; Too bad, he used to be a good guy. Now he's a good example.)
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To: coconutt2000

"I think we should close our borders, legalize the illegals that are already here... "

No way!

Fine those that employ them and make life so miserable for the illegals that they leave of their own accord!


34 posted on 08/22/2004 2:03:41 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: coconutt2000
legalize the illegals that are already here...

Every previous amnesty has just led to larger numbers of people crossing the fence, hoping to get in for the next one.

To make matters worse, the number of illegals in this country is far higher than the government wants to admit. They always go by the nebulous "8 to 12 million" from the 2000 census. The Border Patrol has caught roughly a million a year on our southern border since then -- but for every one they catch, four make it through. There are also several million here who entered on legal visas and conveniently forgot the expiration date. The true number of illegals is somewhere between 20 and 30 million.

Nail the employers to the wall, cut off all public benefits, and let it be known that if illegal status becomes known in the future it will result in immediate forfeiture of all assets followed by swift deportation.

Remember how so many Pakistanis went home after 9-11? I asked a Pakistani friend of mine about it and he gave me the real story. The Paks knew they would be under close scrutiny and quite a large number were here on fake passports and visas.

44 posted on 08/22/2004 4:09:53 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: coconutt2000
legalize the illegals that are already here...

Every previous amnesty has just led to larger numbers of people crossing the fence, hoping to get in for the next one.

To make matters worse, the number of illegals in this country is far higher than the government wants to admit. They always go by the nebulous "8 to 12 million" from the 2000 census. The Border Patrol has caught roughly a million a year on our southern border since then -- but for every one they catch, four make it through. There are also several million here who entered on legal visas and conveniently forgot the expiration date. The true number of illegals is somewhere between 20 and 30 million.

Nail the employers to the wall, cut off all public benefits, and let it be known that if illegal status becomes known in the future it will result in immediate forfeiture of all assets followed by swift deportation.

Remember how so many Pakistanis went home after 9-11? I asked a Pakistani friend of mine about it and he gave me the real story. The Paks knew they would be under close scrutiny and quite a large number were here on fake passports and visas.

45 posted on 08/22/2004 4:11:01 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: coconutt2000
I think we should close our borders, legalize the illegals that are already here... Be extremely harsh on new illegals, and then implement an immigration policy that functions as a brain drain on the rest of the world.

Been there done that, or don't you remember the "One Time Amnesty" that was to fix this problem?

49 posted on 08/22/2004 6:58:52 PM PDT by itsahoot (Sometimes the truth hurts)
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