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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A continual flow of foreign students into our science and engineering programs is essential. Without it, the deliberate dumbing-down of American schoolboys by the feminist-operated education establishment would be exposed. Despite the feminist fantasies, it is mostly boys who pursue these science and engineering degrees. If the education establishment mentally cripples the boys so they will not be in the girls' way, and then the girls don't enroll in the engineering schools anyway, we get this. Plus we get passed up by foreigners in science and technology, and we get a generation of boys who can't read, write, add, or subtract.

Think I'm nuts? 60% of the incoming freshman classes are now female, and you just learned that an ever-growing fraction of the men who are there are being imported from foreign countries. This is not an accident folks. This is feminist social engineering coming to fruition. Think about a world where it's the Chinese and the Indians who have all the high-tech weapons, and we have nothing comparable. It isn't 30 years away.


13 posted on 08/22/2004 1:11:17 AM PDT by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com www.wintersoldier.com www.kerrylied.com)
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To: Nick Danger

It is dismal and getting worse.


15 posted on 08/22/2004 1:15:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Nick Danger
don't disparage the hard work of young women in academics....

I guess I should file a lawsuit against society and the masculinity driven educational system, because back in my day it was nursing school if you wanted to work in the medical field...

those days when girls were routinely pointed in the direction of nursing school or teachers college are not that long ago..

I think our society has benefitted greatly by women entering medicine in great numbers now, as well as other professions, even as we have a nursing shortage....

If you cite these stats about boys/men in college, or stats on how American boys/men are not going into engineering school etc, I guess I believe you, because I don't care to go look up those stats....

but immigrant and 2nd generation male children are doing quite nicely academically....

could it be that it is actually the way we raise boys in this society?

could it be that American boys are being raised soft, non-intellectual?....Are they spending too much time playing violent computer games and watching the Playboy channel, instead of studying, all at mommy and daddy's okay?

are we teaching them that self-indulgence is their right?

are we teaching them that they can participate in any number of "boys will be boys" escapades and still find excuses for them?....

this egotistical upbringing goes for both boys and girls, it just seems that boys do not grow out of it soon enough...

the crux of the problem is this:....our boys are not being "feminized".....

I think our boys are actually becoming just the opposite...

they are becoming almost too testosterone driven....way too violent and way too sexual at earlier and earlier ages....

its frigthning .....

26 posted on 08/22/2004 1:39:56 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Nick Danger
A continual flow of foreign students into our science and engineering programs is essential.

Is it? What if American graduate schools stopped over-producing PhDs, which they can do because more than half the engineering and math PhDs awarded in the US are given to foreign nationals? Then more Americans might go into graduate schools in science, math and engineering. Right now, a typical starting salary for a PhD in math in academia is in the 40s. That's pretty small money for that level of expertise. New business prof salaries are in the 60s or 70s. Salaries in math are that small only because there are too many PhDs on the market in that discipline.

Despite the feminist fantasies, it is mostly boys who pursue these science and engineering degrees.

For the last decade or so, close to 30% of the new PhDs in math in the US have been awarded to women. My own discipline in mathematics, wavelet analysis (an important new area in applied math), was revolutionized by a woman, Prof. Ingrid Daubechies of Princeton University.

41 posted on 08/22/2004 7:31:38 AM PDT by megatherium
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To: Nick Danger; eno_

13 - " This is not an accident folks. This is feminist social engineering coming to fruition. Think about a world where it's the Chinese and the Indians who have all the high-tech weapons, and we have nothing comparable. It isn't 30 years away. "

This is _Eno's goal - he is an avid supporter of eporting our expertice to give our knwledge and wealth to India and China, to develop them instead of us.


100 posted on 08/22/2004 9:00:58 PM PDT by XBob (Free-traitors steal our jobs for their profit.)
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