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Big lies for Bush (Outrageous! Media Scum Claim Kerry is Genuine War Hero, Bob Dole is NOT!)
Boston Globe ^ | 8-22

Posted on 08/21/2004 10:58:52 PM PDT by ambrose

Big lies for Bush August 22, 2004

IMAGINE IF supporters of Bill Clinton had tried in 1996 to besmirch the military record of his opponent, Bob Dole. After all, Dole was given a Purple Heart for a leg scratch probably caused, according to one biographer, when a hand grenade thrown by one of his own men bounced off a tree. And while the serious injuries Dole sustained later surely came from German fire, did the episode demonstrate heroism on Dole's part or a reckless move that ended up killing his radioman and endangering the sergeant who dragged Dole off the field?

The truth, according to many accounts, is that Dole fought with exceptional bravery and deserves the nation's gratitude. No one in 1996 questioned that record. Any such attack on behalf of Clinton, an admitted Vietnam draft dodger, would have been preposterous.

Yet amazingly, something quite similar is happening today as supporters of President Bush attack the Vietnam record of Senator John Kerry.

The situations are not completely parallel. Bush was not a draft dodger, but he certainly was a Vietnam avoider, having joined the Texas Air National Guard rather than serving in the regular military.

Kerry, on the other hand, may have done more than Dole to qualify as a genuine war hero. Although his tour in Vietnam was short, on at least two occasions he acted decisively and with great daring in combat, saving at least one man's life and earning both a Silver Star and a Bronze Star. That's not our account or Kerry's; it is drawn from eyewitnesses and the military citations themselves.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004electionbias; bobdole; bostonglobebias; dnctalkingpoints; kerry; kerrycampaign; mediabias; swiftboatveterans; veterans; x42
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1 posted on 08/21/2004 10:58:52 PM PDT by ambrose
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So now it has come down to attacking Bob Dole.

I am sickened by these filthy scumbags.


2 posted on 08/21/2004 11:00:07 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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3 posted on 08/21/2004 11:01:57 PM PDT by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com www.wintersoldier.com www.kerrylied.com)
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To: Nick Danger

4 posted on 08/21/2004 11:03:39 PM PDT by kesg
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To: ambrose

I am puking. These people are sick!!!!!!!!!!!

The depths that they go to are UNREAL!!!!!

The truth is Kerry (unlike Dole)left Nam after 3 months skipping with three poached Purple Hearts while Bob Dole left on a stretcher. Dole was in the hospital for over a year. Dole almost died. Dole never slandered his comrades.

I am in AWE!!!

Notice how they kick Dole in his balls to rehab Kerry the Traitor!!!

Wow, wow. These people should Rot in HEll!!


5 posted on 08/21/2004 11:03:54 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: ambrose

If there was 250 vets who said Dole lied then the press
would have been all over them. They would interview 3 per day for months before the 1996 election !


6 posted on 08/21/2004 11:04:58 PM PDT by america-rules (It's US or THEM so what part don't you understand ?)
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To: ambrose

This has to be an effort to make America a laughingstock. I have never seen such petty, childish behavior in my life among men who are suppose to be "statesmen".

Who are these people?


7 posted on 08/21/2004 11:06:50 PM PDT by swheats
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To: faithincowboys

It simply cannot stand.


8 posted on 08/21/2004 11:06:56 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: MamaLucci

You're right. They can't get away with this. They have gone much, much too far and they need to get the Hell knocked out of them.


9 posted on 08/21/2004 11:08:13 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: swheats
Who are these people?

democrats

10 posted on 08/21/2004 11:08:19 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: swheats

"Who are these people?"

Utter low lives.


11 posted on 08/21/2004 11:09:18 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys; KQQL; Torie

I am assuming that this Bob Dole bit isn't isolated, but that the Globe has an advance copy of next week's Talking Points Memo...

If so, the Bush campaign should demand that Kerry denounce these attacks on Bob Dole.


12 posted on 08/21/2004 11:11:17 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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I'm not sure this author is in full possession of his wits. If he was, he would realize that the issue of Kerry's heroism is being questioned because it may not have happened as described by Kerry in his reports.

At issue is the degree of heroism, but whether or not that heroism had been manufactured. There is nothing heroic about running down a wounded VC, unless it is done in the face of enemy fire, while surrounded by the enemy... and really - only if he wasn't wounded. So, if there was only a single wounded enemy and no others, then chasing him down when it was no longer necessary is not heroism, it is only prudence... It is war after all, and a wounded but armed enemy is a danger. But heroic? Hardly.

The incident with Rassman... It is heroic if Kerry rescued him while enemy bullets were flying all around him, but if enemy fire was lacking... It was only pulling Rassman from a river where John Kerry's skills as skipper put him in the first place. So, it isn't a question of degree, it is an issue of whether or not the heroics actually happened.


13 posted on 08/21/2004 11:11:49 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: faithincowboys
They have gone much, much too far and they need to get the Hell knocked out of them.

You are right, and I know just the guys for the job.........

KERRY LIED . . . while good men died
A gathering of Vietnam veterans from across America

Where: The West Front of the U.S. Capitol Building Washington, DC

When: Sunday, Sept 12, 2004 2:00-4:00 PM (EDT) Why: To tell the truth about Vietnam veterans.

To counter the lies told about Vietnam veterans by John Kerry

All Vietnam veterans and their families and supporters are asked to attend.

Other veterans are invited as honored guests.

14 posted on 08/21/2004 11:12:56 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: ambrose
Mommy Heinz!
Help!

Look! What the Harvard Crimson wrote about me in 1970

Published on Wednesday, February 18, 1970
John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress
By SAMUEL Z. GOLDHABER
Crimson Staff Writer

"...One time Kerry was ordered to destroy a Viet Cong village
but disobeyed orders and suggested that the Navy Command
simply send in a Psychological Warfare team to be
friend the villagers with food, hospital supplies,
and better educational facilities."



Now my shipmates on the
USS GRIDLEY CG-21
are attacking me.

Click Here Mommy
and see what
the USS GRIDLEY crew say.


They say I told lies in Tour of Duty
GRIDLEY CREW ARE LIKE
SWIFT BOAT VETS MEANIES!

Mommy : Can I please sell MY real book?
The New Soldier,
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans Against the War



Mommy : Please don't be mad
about my hero Al Hubbard.

Head of Kerry's Vietnam Vets Against the War was Vietnam Vet phony
"Many of the stories were later shown to be fictional. Other so-called Vietnam veterans, such as the executive secretary of VVAW, Al Hubbard, a self-styled poet ("See what you've become, Amerika," ends one of his Vietnam odes),
turned out to have no record of service in Vietnam."



OOPS! I POOPED in my diaper again.

Mommy : Don't take my allowance away.
Mommy : Why does McCain
still campaign with Bush?
Mommy : Why doesn't Al Gore defend me?
He is a Vietnam Vet.

Mommy : OOPS I Pooped again.

Mommy : Why did Hillary
"leak" FBI Files on me?
I even used her famous slogan?


"Kerry entered and abandoned Vietnamese village and slaughtered domestic animals
owned by the civilians and burned down their homes with his Zippo lighter."




It only takes one idiot to raze a village!
(My original response!)


Mommy : Where is Ted Kennedy?



15 posted on 08/21/2004 11:12:57 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: MamaLucci; faithincowboys

Democrats who are in charge of counting the ballots it seems. There is no way this batch could possibly represent anyone that would actually vote for them.

How could Kerry have a constituency when he hasn't been in Washington enough to do the people's business?

As you can see I'm just full of questions because this just don't make any sense to me.


16 posted on 08/21/2004 11:14:18 PM PDT by swheats
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To: ambrose; All

Am I the only one that remembers when the media attacked Bush 41's military record??? I don't remember the exact details, but during the 92 election campaign the press floated the idea that then president Bush had committed war crimes while serving in WWII...


17 posted on 08/21/2004 11:14:40 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (I WILL VOTE FOR GEORGE W. BUSH INSTEAD OF JOHN KERRY because I still believe in the rule of law)
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To: ambrose

Yup. This is sick. this is so sick. Bob Dole isn't in this fight, he's an old man with use of only one arm since he was a young man. He almost died fighting fascists, he's never been anything but a good, loyal American. This is such a gutter thing to do. I am simply disgusted with Kerry and the people who prop him up. If we are still a great country, these lousy bastards have to go down in flames.


18 posted on 08/21/2004 11:15:31 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: swilhelm73

The media claimed that Bush41 murdered his co-pilot and then ejected from his plane before it crashed.


19 posted on 08/21/2004 11:15:49 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: faithincowboys

I swear, if I didn't have kids going back to school, I'd go the the rally Sept.12 to show my support, as the daughter of a Korean War vet.


20 posted on 08/21/2004 11:16:07 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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