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To: todd1

Look, we don't dislike Mexicans. We just want immigration to be safe, legal, and limited. If you don't like the limits, go to Congress and lobby to get them increased. But we're asking to enforce the limits that we have. Anything else is anarchy. What we have now is anarchy. We have rich landowners taking advantage of illegal and cheap labor. We have politicians farming votes with "beach head" births. We have social program directors dreaming of more and more power. We have left, right, and center hoping to get a cheaper head of lettuce.

And meanwhile our culture is being lost. This isn't the America I was born in. It's something totally different. It's a massive social engineering experiment hatched in the minds of Greatest Generation socialists who believed they could create a utopia here.

It's no utopia now, and it won't be in the future either. This is about rule of law. The social engineers aren't above transforming a society by hook, crook, or coup. When the population of this country tips in the balance, which it will do in our lifetimes, its future will be for sale to the highest bidder.

You and your children -- of any race -- be welcomed into an Orwellian America where the founding fathers become the enemies of the people, and Christopher Columbus is burned in effigy every September 18th -- on the whitehouse lawn.

What is the biggest problem south of the border? Hernando de Soto describes it as the lack of respect for law and its rule. Do you see a correlation here? We're having massive amounts of illegal immigration and the rule of law is breaking down in the process.

I suggested at beginning of this post that you lobby for increased limits. You'll fail. Why? Because Americans want to protect their borders, their identity, and their sovereignty. They want their culture to be American. If you want to ignore their wishes, you are anything but democratic.

It is the elites of both parties who have decided to push forced diversity on us, not the common people. It is anything but democratic.


240 posted on 08/22/2004 11:03:41 AM PDT by risk
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To: risk; todd1

"Anything else is anarchy. What we have now is anarchy."

What risk said!

First we declare an immediate moratorium on all immigration, except for those people who are currently in the legal "pipeline". Next we close down the Mexican border along with the porous borders at our airports. Thirdly we scrap the current "lottery" system for visas and return to a system were we can pick and chose who comes here, according to our needs, not Ted Kennedy's self-hating concept of dumb luck. I would suggest forbidding immigration from any Islamofacist nations, even our allies, such as Saudi Arabia, except maybe I would let the women in, but not the men. After this, we start to seriously deport illegals, criminals first and fastest. I don't know what we should do about the "anchor babies" as it is impossible to do much without amending the constitution. The longer we let the current state of anarcy go on, the harder it will be to deal with this problem, and we will eventually have to deal with it, the public will demand it.

I was a complete open borders person until 9/11, now I'm as anti-immigration as any one. Bad people doing bad things have made me change my mind.


269 posted on 08/22/2004 2:29:36 PM PDT by jocon307 (That's allowed, as long as we all vote for W.)
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To: risk

It's not a matter of liking or disliking them --- and the open-borders types never can explain how this massive migration of people out of Mexico is doing that country or those who stay behind any good at all ---- Mexico will never become a decent place until they change their government and aspects of their culture --- unlimited immigration actually keeps that from happening.


270 posted on 08/22/2004 3:10:57 PM PDT by FITZ
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