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I originally made this commentary here. I am reposting here for review, because this needs to be known about how this bogus charge is being brought to the forefront.


Well, actually, this rallly is being held in Gainesville (not Alachua) and it is interesting that the Kerry campaign would notice this flier.

Did you notice the fax time stamp on the top left of the fax....August 18 5:56 PM?

Do you know who was in Gainesville, Florida on August 18 in the evening, appearing about 8 blocks away from where this rally will be held? (notice that the event hasn't taken place yet).

Del Sandusky.

Del Sandusky of the "I support John Kerry and the Swift Vets are liars" fame. Mr. Sandusky appeared August 18 at 7:00 to 9:00 PM at the Unified Training Center (809 W University) in Gainesville, Florida. They basically had a 2 hour "Hate Bush" fest. I believe that we have a video of the entire event too. There were plenty of MoveOn.org supporters in the room that night with Mr. Sandusky, a personal representative, an emissary if you will, of the Kerry campaign.

Coincidentally, the Downtown Plaza is located on University & Main Street and I wouldn't be surprised if the flier was handed out at or around this event or posted on one the "flier post" that are found in that area of town.

Read the FREEPER After Action Report posted by Chieftain (Veritas et equitas ad Votum and OPBuzz were also in attendance).

Any chance that Mr. Sandusky saw some opportunity in what otherwise a poorly-worded flier to claim a false connection? Hmmm.

Well, it would be fair to say that Mr. Sandusky would be able to get ahold of Mr. Kerry and/or his minions, so it is not that far of a stretch.

Isn't it just a little coincidental that 1 of 6 men that is being dragged across the country to show support for Kerry was in Gainesville Florida right about the same time that the fax was fax to someone, who is now publishing the fax? Why Alachua/Gainesville?

Just a little odd, don't you think?

So, just to recap.

1. There is a vaguely-written flier that has the name of several "like minded" groups (meaning, they could all be generally classified as anti-Kerry) to an event that hasn't even happened yet and doesn't have any official or representative from the Bush-Cheney campaign as the keynote speaker.

...and...

2. An event, in Gainesville, already took place and at the event a personal representative of Mr. Kerry and Mr. Kerry's campaign was the keynote speaker where the event was attended by many MoveOn.org supporters.

Now, which one of these events appears to have coordination?

That, my friends, is what you call blowing the lid right off of this story and exposing it for the weak charge that it is.

1 posted on 08/20/2004 8:49:44 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: mattdono

Are you saying you know for a fact that the flyer was fabricated by a Kerry supporter?


2 posted on 08/20/2004 8:53:39 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Eat American honey.)
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To: Warrior Nurse; Taxman; Veritas et equitas ad Votum; krunkygirl; Dutchgirl; OXENinFLA; Chieftain
BUMP to this story.

Hi, all, I am bumping you to this story as an FYI, just in case the Kerry camp tries to used this story for their political gain.

Chieftain...if you have a larger bump list of Florida FREEPERs, feel free to pass it along.

3 posted on 08/20/2004 8:53:50 PM PDT by mattdono ([mattdono to John Kerry]: I voted for you...right before I voted against you.)
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To: mattdono

I think Scott Camil still walks those streets, too. He was one of Kerry's guys back in the 70's, and he's no stranger to Gainesville. Wouldn't be a bit surprised to know that Kerry still has him on as a wing man.


6 posted on 08/20/2004 9:05:58 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: mattdono
So we have a County GOP office coordinating an event with the local Swift Boat vets....

How about the Democratic National Committee coordinating with the Leadership of MoveOn.org?

In their own words...DNC coordination with MoveOn.org

"The Democratic Party is partnering with MoveOn.org, People for the American Way, Campaign for America's Future, and dozens of other groups representing millions of Americans to organize a massive public mobilization. On Wednesday, May 14, join us by calling and emailing your representatives in Congress to let them know that the majority of Americans oppose more irresponsible tax cuts that go overwhelmingly to the wealthiest sliver of Americans."
http://www.democrats.org/wvc/weekinreview/200305120002.html

"DNC Chief Operating Officer Josh Wachs (left), Senator Leahy, and Zack Exley from Moveon.org pose with the more than 310,000 signatures."
http://www.democrats.org/blog/display/00010183.html

"The DNC is also conducting a major petition drive in partnership with MoveOn.org. More than 310,000 Americans have signed the petition to protect our courts — with more than 172,000 of those signatures coming in the past 36 hours. The petition calls on Bush and the Republicans to stop nominating judges that are out of step with mainstream Americans and praising the Democrats for standing up for their rights."
http://www.democrats.org/news/200311140002.html

"The East Bay for Kerry/MoveOn House party on December 7th combined the forces of two grass-roots organizations based in San Francisco East Bay Area." Attended by Teresa Heinz-Kerry
http://blog.johnkerry.com/blog/archives/000871.html

"Jan 31, 2004 ::
Catch the Moveon ad during the Super Bowl
Here's a message from Moveon.org:
This Sunday, during the Super Bowl half time show, join us in changing channels on CBS. At 8:10pm and 8:35pm EST, switch over to CNN to watch "Child's Pay" on a channel which doesn't censor its ads. We'd like to keep a tally of the number of people who participate — you can sign up here." Links to http://www.moveonvoterfund.org/boycott/
Posted by DNC Research @ 09:00 PM"
http://www.democrats.org/blog/comment/00010377.html

A letter to MoveOn members from John Kerry, June 17, 2003 http://www.moveon.org/pac/cands/kerry.html

27 posted on 08/23/2004 8:18:39 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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