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Mexican Border Problems Now Infect U. S. Politics
ChronWatch ^ | 08-19-2004 | Robert Klein Engler

Posted on 08/19/2004 4:03:38 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus

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To: buccaneer81
"Who would labor in the fields to get our crops out of the ground?"

Well, if need be, prisoners (with a good behavior/hard work incentive) come to mind.

Good way to get something out of the costs of their upkeep provided abuses are kept in check (ie: the old chain gang system). Use of near-slave illegal labor has hindered long-needed implementation of more efficient planting and harvesting technologies. America is falling behind on that front just as it's lost most of her manufacturing capability. Interum use of prisoners would facilitate our getting back up to speed.

61 posted on 08/20/2004 9:37:41 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (http://www.numbersusa.com makes a difference!)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
It's as if these conservatives have ears but they do not hear and eyes but they do not see.

Damn straight. Except I'd put "conservatives" in quotes. There's nothing "conservative" about festooning America with millions of illegal parasites.

62 posted on 08/20/2004 10:50:08 AM PDT by jimt
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To: FITZ
Poor, downtrodden salt-of-the-earth people totally dependent on our mercy, wanting no more than the chance to provide for their families. Surely we, who have so much, can see the unfairness of our heartlessly cruel laws that steal the food from their starving ninos' mouths?

The press has been pushing that hogwash for years.

I, like you , live too close to them to believe a word of it. What I see are a totally mercenary group doing their best to stay underground while jobbing our systems every way possible. How can I respect a mindset that, when told a rule or law, only concerns itself with getting around it to avoid compliance?

The media are guilty of propaganda but the real villains are immigration attorneys and so-called advocate groups. Test cases designed to stop and reverse those groups' influence need to be taken as high as possible to set precedent. The challenge to Tennessee's Driver's Certificate Law may fail in a way that starts turning the tide in our favor:

"Among the state's arguments are that if the plaintiffs are legal immigrants, their rights aren't being violated by being asked to get certificates because they have access to other legitimate immigration identification. Only illegal immigrants would have the right to sue the state over the law. But if the plaintiffs are illegal immigrants, the suit should be thrown out because they don't have the right to get a license or state identification anyway."

We'll see if some pantywaist judge can sabotage that argument. Another case FAIR is pushing should settle the question of "anchor babies" once and for all. Like in Johnny Cash's song, we have to take it all back "one piece at a time."

63 posted on 08/20/2004 11:09:18 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (http://www.numbersusa.com makes a difference!)
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To: FrankWild
"Their arrogance is beyond contempt."

LOL, No wonder they get along so famously with Mexico's representatives - with that in common they know no bounds of common decency.

Now who do I call about an attempted hijacking in progress?

65 posted on 08/20/2004 12:13:03 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (http://www.numbersusa.com makes a difference!)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
or a rift will open in American society that may be healed only by protracted violence."

Too late, I am afraid.

66 posted on 08/20/2004 5:13:07 PM PDT by itsahoot (<(•¿•)>)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

.."This must happen soon, or a rift will open in American society that may be healed only by protracted violence..."


*cough*


67 posted on 08/20/2004 7:01:25 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group ("Life's a bitch, get a helmet" - D. Leary)
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To: itsahoot

Ahh, your tagline is an owl! (I'm not the sharpest spork in the drawer).

Too late? Hopefully not. I do my best to promote implementing disincentives as a solution. Just starting prosecutions of illegal aliens' employers would trigger a voluntary mass exodus. Secondary disincentives include denial of all possible services and restrictions on the billions of remittance dollars they send out of the country. No mass roundups, no martial law, no judicial expense; a literal fortune in taxpayer money saved.

The only obstacle is forcing lawmakers to turn a deaf ear to their best contributors pleas as they're being led away. My thoughts on that run along negotiated plea bargaining - make the politicians give up a few until the dogies are stampeding, then taper off. Their incentive lies in heading off investigations that could find them taking the perp walk after their boys.


68 posted on 08/20/2004 7:16:09 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (http://www.numbersusa.com makes a difference!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group

See #68.


69 posted on 08/20/2004 7:17:49 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (http://www.numbersusa.com makes a difference!)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Last weekend's posts shut me down for a week.

:D

Your ideas have merit, just 3 days of raids cleared the streets. Employer penalties and all that. Old Asa agreed with every one of "our side's" points. But he doesn't do anything. None of em do.

I'm beginning to think that CA is a lost cause. I've reported large groups of IE's at least once a week for a while now...learned that the key phrases you use are instrumental in getting the cops to respond.

Public urination...destruction of personal property...etc.
But all my work seems to do nothing but increase the size of the group across the street.

Groupthink, doublespeak...whatever you want to call it. It's changed the way people think. They no longer care, or think they can't change what's going on. Asked a liquor store owner why he didn't call the cops on the group loitering outside his store the other day. He said he didn't want to get into it.... Um. What?

Not sure if you're listening to "political human sacrifice" on KFI, I wasn't too sure about it myself until lately. It's clear that our reps don't listen to us. Or have made other commitments they can't or don't want to break.

Maybe they'll listen if we start feeding on the weaker members of our party. Not like they actually do anything for us anyway. Feinstein and Boxer make me want to lick a razor blade...but there's no way we'll ever be rid of them.

As far as a Vigilante Uprising, I'm clear on that issue. Time and date's all I need. I'll do my best to attend the border patrol. Maybe if political human sacrifice doesn't work...be kind of fun to put on my BDU's again...wonder if I still have my handcuff keys.

Think we have to start looking seriously into what the Citizens of Arizona are doing, and take cues from them. They seem to be avoiding prosecution so far and getting large groups stopped. If/when it comes to that...this would be an excellent way to organize.


70 posted on 08/20/2004 8:37:22 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Preaching to the choir in the hopes of reaching an onlooker.....)
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To: swampfox98

.."At least I hope voters are smart enough to remember all that.."

Did you see Survivor last night?


71 posted on 08/20/2004 8:43:06 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (subtle?)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

BTTT


72 posted on 09/11/2004 11:21:32 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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