[Don Joe]

I'm wondering if he knew that it would be this surprising to many people or if maybe he just came up with it sort of on the spur of the moment and didn't really think it through before he started talking about it. That kind of thing can happen, you know.

We all commit the occasional faux pas.

But it takes a special kind of... something for someone to dig in and defend his brainfart as if it was his firstborn child.

[Scenic Sounds]

We all commit the occasional faux pas.

But it takes a special kind of... something for someone to dig in and defend his brainfart as if it was his firstborn child.

Well, I think that's just part of that infallibility image that others have unfairly imposed on him. I think it would be very good for him in a lot of ways to just have a revelation on this issue and reverse course.

I think that's coming. I really do.