[PeterPrinciple]

Jesse Peterson (Bond) spoke out against Keyes on this on the audio at his website. If there is a strategy, Peterson is not in on it......or he is a part of it.

[Hermes37]

What a bummer.

I was gonna vote for him, but that issue is on the other side of my line in the sand.

I was actually excited about his candadcy in IL.
Keyword in above sentence 'was'.
The only difference between Keys and a RINO is?????
In my white mind anyways. Why is it MY responsibility?

Your mileage may vary.

End of RANT.

[Ron in Acreage]

Sounds good. As long as the rest of us are exempt as well. He should say whatever is required to get a decent share of the black vote. The democrats promise all kinds of crap to the blacks every election. It's about time we do the same. Remember, it's the thought that counts. Not the actual results. Democrats never keep any of their promises to blacks, but they keep getting their vote. Two can play that game. We just need to "out-promise" them.

[Toskrin]

Keyes is smart enough to know that this proposal would never fly. It is designed to be a stick in the sides of both Republicans and Democrats, and to draw attention to a candidate who is very underfunded.

The Democrat objection to his plan is that most slave desendants are lower middle class and pay little taxes. This clashes directly with their argument that the wealthy don't pay enough and the little man pays too much.

I don't like this plan much, but Keyes is right on about his analysis of how blacks got to where they were it society today. It starts with slavery, then severe poverty after the Civil War, then racism and segregation, and now incentivizing poverty. But there's clearly a direct connection between today's black economic condition and slavery. Blacks would do just fine if whites would stop trying either to suppress them or "fix" them.

[keats5]

I'm just curious. Is there any group of people in the world whose ancestors have not been enslaved at some point in history?

I thought it was routine in the ancient world for invaders to kill or enslave their conquests.

[7.62 x 51mm]

He didn't have much of a chance anyway; now he's cut his own throat. He's toast.

[MNnice]

There's an old adage that before you can educate anyone, you've got to get their attention. This is a great strategy to split the chicago black vote. heh heh. Even die-hard democrat blacks are gonna stop and listen to him now. That's all you can ask for.

[rockrr]

Say goodnight Alan.......

[outlawcam]

{groan}

I really, really hope this issue goes away soon. Alan is not thinking of the unintended consequences of this, among other things.

It will cause animosity and jealousy. Not a good idea. That will foster racism. In addition, what of mixed couples filing joint returns? It adds complexity that the tax code does not need. Abolish the income tax, for everyone, and everyone benefits. Institute the FairTax, and place a person's rate of taxation in his own control. That is fairness, and it is something everyone can live with.

[sheltonmac]

Reparations *ping*

[nonliberal]

The guy is too arrogant to admit that he is dead wrong.

[William Terrell]

A friend of mine emailed me this some time ago. I've posted it several times because it profiles the central flaw in any form of the reparations movement.

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While travelling to work the other day, I happened to catch Michael Medved's talk show with some woman who is the head of one those groups demanding reparation for Africans in America due to slavery. Of course I'd heard of this before and had already decided it was ok by me as long as it was done fairly. Here's what I would consider a fair system of reparation to descendents of slaves:

First & foremost, reparation must include repatriation. Any African who doesn't want to be repatriated is admitting that they're better off in the US than they would have been had they been left in Africa. If having their ancestors brought here in slavery has made them better off than they would have been otherwise, then what claim do they have to reparation? Of course any repatriation would have to be permanent. Those being repatriated would have to give up their US citizenship.

Second, reparation dollar amounts must be based on the African enonomy not the US economy. If we have damaged some Africans by removing them from Africa, then obviously the amount of reparation we owe them would have to based on what they could be expected to earn in Africa not the US. If there income expectancy is higher in the US, then where is the economic damage? I have developed the following formula and taken wild guesses at the variables.

A 30 year old African decides he wants his reparation and he would like to be repatriated to Kenya. Ok, we find out the life expectancy in Kenya is 50 years. We also find out the average annual income in Kenya is $2,000. So we subtract his age from 50 and find out he has 20 years to live in Kenya. We multiple 20 times $2,000 and his reparation amount is $40,000. Plus we would give him free transportation to Kenya.

Since we have given him Kenya's average annual income for the rest of his life, he should be able to move to Kenya and live the rest of his life without ever having to work again. What more could a reasonable man ask?

It seems totally reasonable to me to base all of this on African life expectancies and African income levels because had we not enslaved their ancestors, then that is what they would have been born into. That is what they would have to look forward to. With the above two rules, I totally support reparation for Africans in America.

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[Reagan is King]

I think he just guaranteed himself a loss in November. He's not going to get the black vote that agrees with reparations because they're mostly hard-core Democrats, and he's not going to draw any Conservatives with that idea so I'm just amazed he thinks this is an issue he needs to campaign on.

[Onelifetogive]

I think Keyes' biggest problem is his failure to comprehend how seriously dense many Republicans can be. Alan Keyes is has consistently and articulately argued ALL the arguments that we Conservatives support. He has always been exactly what we have wanted in a candidate. He fails to understand how quickly many dim Republicans will abandon him if he makes some rhetorical arguments to entrap Democrats...

[spunkets]

"Conservative activist Jack Roeser met with Keyes for what Roeser called "a long argument and an intense one" over the issue before the speech. A Barrington businessman, Roeser said he still is not sold on Keyes' reparations proposal, but still plans to support him anyway. "I will tell my friends that this is a good man, and we should support him."

Ditto. Keyes maintains support after a long, intense argument. It's a tax cut and Keyes is not a puppet.

[mhking]

Keyes is imploding before our very eyes.

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[CaptainJustice]

Who is this guy?! I thought he was one of us...

[Taliesan]

Yeah, reparations is what the Republican party should be talking about right now.

What an absolute goofball.

[Ghost in the Machine]

I guess it's true what I've heard about Alan Keyes: He's a racist pig like Sharpton, just with a different set of credentials.

I wonder if that FReeper that left a couple years back in such a blaze of fire is still flacking for him?

[Tall_Texan]

My only question, Alan. Who would qualify? Would proof of descendency be necessary or does anyone with Negro features just get automatically accpeted even if he is Hakeem Olajuwon?

Personally, I've come out in favor of a similar one-time payoff for reparations but it comes with a clause. To accept your reparations, you can no longer apply for welfare or public assistance except those things available to the middle class and you will sign a statement declaring you will no longer bellyache about slavery and racism every time you don't get what you want. Deal?

IOW, reparations is meant to be a permanent end to the problem of widespread poverty and hunger among blacks but it will only be handed out once and if that money is not spent wisely, there is no second chance.

If white folks pay this out, absolve our collective guilt and end all the racial finger-pointing that keeps our people divided, I think it will be a long-term benefit for our country. Somehow, some way, blacks have got to get over it and not be conditioned to think they are monolithic victims instead of individuals with opportunities. If reparations can accomplish that, it will be well worth it.