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Immigrants Face Loss of Licenses in ID Crackdown
NY Times ^ | 8/18/04 | Nina Bernstein

Posted on 08/18/2004 9:20:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Once-Ler
Please elaborate

Sure, be glad to. How about ..

one issue illegal immigrant hating troglodytes

the knuckle dragging PaleoCons

I guess the "conservatives" at FR accept the welfare state and the tax burden...

Let me guess. You work in public relations, right. Or for the DNC?

61 posted on 08/19/2004 12:01:40 AM PDT by skip_intro
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To: Once-Ler
I have sympathy for them and I like the cheap labor

You would have loved slavery.

62 posted on 08/19/2004 12:03:12 AM PDT by skip_intro
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To: lonewacko_dot_com; FITZ
4. Why didn't Nina Bernstein find one of those people whose SSNs had been used and present a sympathetic portrait of them?

Amusingly enough Hispanics are frequent victims of this crime since it's easier for an illegal alien Hispanic to imitate a legal one. And to stael an SS# from within the "community"

63 posted on 08/19/2004 12:03:54 AM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: Once-Ler
I like the cheap labor

Ah, the truth comes out, doesn't it? Guess what, I don't like subsidizing your cheap labor. I think that taxpayers should start class-action suits against employers of illegals, to attempt to recoup thier losses.

64 posted on 08/19/2004 12:04:20 AM PDT by garandgal (Lord; please let our country survive the "worthless generation.")
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To: Once-Ler
I don't know about what they accept. I know I don't accept a welfare state and bitterly resent my relatively tiny tax burden. You should ask the top percentile earners in the party who don't mind recouping theirs by paying sub-par wages to 'expendable' human cogs.
65 posted on 08/19/2004 12:06:13 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (http://www.numbersusa.com makes a difference!)
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To: Once-Ler
Sorry, with all of your massive bloviating on this thread, I missed that.

You didn't answer the principle question, and I'm sure you won't:

WHAT walls was he talking about?

66 posted on 08/19/2004 12:08:45 AM PDT by garandgal (Lord; please let our country survive the "worthless generation.")
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To: skip_intro
You accuse others of making statements they didn't make and attack them personally because they disagree with you.

I asked you to elaborate. You posted a few insults I justifiably offered, but no lies. I have not "accused others of making statements they didn't make." I did attack them personally for being assh*les. It is not my fault they are assh*les. What more can I say?

Let me guess. You work in public relations, right. Or for the DNC?

I worked for my state Republican party for almost 10 years, and I loved the job. The Republican party is the gateway to the redemption of America, but I was offered more money in a non-political position and I decided my family deserved more money. The decision tore me apart, but politics would never pay as much as the private sector...and even though Dubya was offering amnesty to illegal immigrants...there was no way in hell that it could effect my job at the Republican Party of Wisconsin or my new job so I wasn't soiling my underwear about some guy named Pablo. I'm guessing you lost your job to an uneducated non-English 3rd world worker. Tough break dummy.

67 posted on 08/19/2004 12:16:12 AM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: garandgal
You didn't answer the principle question, and I'm sure you won't:

That is because you didn't ask the question...your questions change everytime I nuke your argument. You are a sad misinformed little boy. You are unable to read a 4 sentence paragraph in plain English and understand it's meaning.

WHAT walls was he talking about?

Pathetic.

68 posted on 08/19/2004 12:24:29 AM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: judgeandjury
These are the people who should be rewarded with a green card, not the illegal aliens who have no respect for our laws.

I got a speeding ticket last year. According to this article this woman has been living in the US for 11 years without incident. Illegals are not a bunch of drug dealers and mothers who pimp their children. They are people who don't want to get raped by the local Mexican sheriff, or beaten by local gangs. What a sad day for America when our citizens think that freedom is common place.

69 posted on 08/19/2004 12:30:06 AM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: judgeandjury

Or maybe you think America and freedom just equals a job.


70 posted on 08/19/2004 12:30:50 AM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: dennisw
Congratulations.

It is too late to apologize!

71 posted on 08/19/2004 12:35:23 AM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: NormsRevenge

How I wish that the CAlifornia DMV would start doing that...ILLEGAL ALIENS should all be sent home They drive down wages, the use up public services, they inc rease the crfime rates and the generally ruin any place the go to...Send em back to Mexico or where ever they come from...Let them build up their own country no tear ours down


72 posted on 08/19/2004 12:37:52 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: garandgal
I don't like subsidizing your cheap labor. I think that taxpayers should start class-action suits against employers of illegals, to attempt to recoup their losses.

It is entirely possible that you can convince a bunch of leech lawyers to fight your cause but, if you could convince a majority of voters that you knew what you were talking about we would not be having this conversation. You are the minority. Both the Republican party and the 'rat party have human emotions and sensibilities. You will have to join your skin head brethren in the Constitution Party for acceptance.

73 posted on 08/19/2004 12:40:15 AM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: Once-Ler
That is because you didn't ask the question...your questions change everytime I nuke your argument. You are a sad misinformed little boy. You are unable to read a 4 sentence paragraph in plain English and understand it's meaning.

Obviously, you have me confused with someone else. I asked ONE question: What did Reagan mean in his farewell speech when he said "..and if the city has to have walls?" That's my only question; I'd like an answer.

I see that you were actually employed by a state Republican Party. I have done quite a bit of volunteer work for my State party, and am familiar with the types of college "majors" that they look for when they hire. Perhaps I should phrase my question in multiple-choice?

74 posted on 08/19/2004 12:41:01 AM PDT by garandgal (Lord; please let our country survive the "worthless generation.")
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To: NewRomeTacitus
You should ask the top percentile earners in the party who don't mind recouping theirs by paying sub-par wages to 'expendable' human cogs.

I'm middle class. Lee Iococca can go screw himself, but I do not hate Jose the bartender. Maybe I got my priorities mixed up. Or I don't!

75 posted on 08/19/2004 12:45:48 AM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: Once-Ler
You are the minority. Both the Republican party and the 'rat party have human emotions and sensibilities. You will have to join your skin head brethren in the Constitution Party for acceptance.

Oh, that was nice! Since you worked for a State party, you should be familiar with a little thing called "polls." The majority of the American public does NOT like illegal immigration. As with many issues, the will of the public is being ignored.

Of course, you, like all liberals (including Republican liberals) try to shout down your detractors by making them seem less than human. Don't you care about the people from other third-world countries who are on waiting lists trying to come here legally? I have a great deal more sympathy for them than for those who cheat the system.

76 posted on 08/19/2004 12:48:41 AM PDT by garandgal (Lord; please let our country survive the "worthless generation.")
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

This is also the biggest contributor to voter fraud. Tax ID numbers issued by the IRS to ALL ILLEGALS who apply are being used to open bank accounts also. I truely hope that crackdowns take place. Think of all the money being held and transfered out of the country by these illegals, wether terrorists or not. Credit Cards and even loans are issued to buy homes here in Kalifornia. But the real reason demonrats want this to stay is to vote in their "illegal" based elections.


77 posted on 08/19/2004 12:56:08 AM PDT by Terridan (God help us send these Islamic Extremist savages back into Hell where they belong...)
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To: garandgal
The walls, the walls, the walls. The walls were not the point of the quote. The walls are to protect against enemies. The people you describe as "invading" America are not here to tear it down...to you they're nothing but job stealing wetbacks, but believe me, they look at America as the birthplace of their children, and a beacon of hope.

I have done quite a bit of volunteer work for my State party, and am familiar with the types of college "majors" that they look for when they hire.

Wow. I must thank you. I expected to insult you and here you are doing it yourself. Seriously, I resent you calling yourself a Republican. I'd prefer if you said you were a "Conservative." They are not the same thing.

78 posted on 08/19/2004 12:57:23 AM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: garandgal
The majority of the American public does NOT like illegal immigration. As with many issues, the will of the public is being ignored.

Wow, you are completely clueless. Do you truely believe both the 'rat party and the Republican party would take a stand against over 50% of the voters. That is beyond ignorance. I suppose Clinton signed welfare reform because the American people were against it but Clinton really wanted it...And Dubya so wanted to expand medical benifits that he twisted Pat Toomey arms until he gave in. I have nothing more to say to you. You are beyond help. Live in your conspiracy world if you wish but please don't try to pass yourself off as rational.

79 posted on 08/19/2004 1:09:06 AM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: Once-Ler
The walls, the walls, the walls. The walls were not the point of the quote.

Of course the "walls" were the point of the quote. The balance of it would stand alone and make YOUR point; however, the fact that he specifically said it makes mine.

I said I "volunteered" for the Republican party, as you well know. I am familiar with the types of people that they HIRE. You fit the profile quite well.

You will get your wish that conservatives don't call themselves Republicans; and your type will have caused it. Reagan was a conservative; a true believer, and great thinker, who dragged the Republicans (kicking and screaming) to power. It's sickening to see his legacy being taken over by a bunch of moderate Democrats.

80 posted on 08/19/2004 1:10:14 AM PDT by garandgal (Lord; please let our country survive the "worthless generation.")
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