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As A Senate Candidate…Keyes Will Force Debate On The Real Issues
The Wanderer ^ | August 19, 2004 | By THOMAS F. ROESER

Posted on 08/17/2004 9:04:17 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner

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I rejoiced in the Keyes selection. The senate election looks hopeless, yet I have hope because of him. He can win under these conditions:

1. Obama is discredited for his pro-abort, high tax positions. 2. Keyes cuts through the election rhetoric with incindiary comments that reveal Obama's leftist leanings. 3. ALL conservatives in Illinois register and vote for Keyes.

I'd say Keyes has a 10% chance of winning. Before his nomination, I'd say there was a 0% chance.

1 posted on 08/17/2004 9:04:21 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Does the website have a transcript of his press conference yesterday? The press coverage in the Chicago papers have him saying something about reparations for descendents of slaves and I'd like see exactly what he said.


2 posted on 08/17/2004 9:09:04 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Anybody want to place odds on a Bush endorsement?


3 posted on 08/17/2004 9:09:14 AM PDT by BufordP (FLASH! Bush rumored to drop Cheney from ticket. Log Cabin Republicans respond: "WE WANT DICK!")
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

I think the commentary has a small error: Wasn't Sam Houston BORN in VA, not TN?


4 posted on 08/17/2004 9:12:47 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

What real issues? Abortion and reparations for blacks. Yeah those are the real issues. Barf!! The idiot Keyes is now in favor of reparations. However rather than pay cash, he wants to give blacks freedom from taxes for two generations. Yeah that's a conservative idea. NOT!


5 posted on 08/17/2004 9:22:44 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: BufordP
Anybody want to place odds on a Bush endorsement?

250 to 1 AGAINST endorsement. GW is no fool and he doesnt put up with fools like Keyes.

6 posted on 08/17/2004 9:25:02 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Theodore R.

Sam Houston

Birthplace:
Rockbridge County, Virginia

Based upon this site:

http://www.who2.com/samhouston.html


7 posted on 08/17/2004 9:33:31 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (The Passion of the Christ--the top non-fiction movie of all time)
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To: Dave S

I skimmed through the article and didn't catch anything about reparations.


8 posted on 08/17/2004 9:35:21 AM PDT by French-American Republican
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To: BufordP
Anybody want to place odds on a Bush endorsement?

A Karl Rove endorsement: 0% chance.

A Bush endorsement: 10% chance

If specifically asked in a press conference, President Bush will endorse Keyes.

9 posted on 08/17/2004 9:36:45 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (The Passion of the Christ--the top non-fiction movie of all time)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

As much as I like Keyes, as a candidate he's brought up: (1) his support of his version of reparations (in contradiction of his earlier statements); (2) his desire to get rid of the direct election of U.S. Senators.

This isn't mainstream stuff and Keyes is making it easy for the Dems (and the press) to paint him as a wacko. Alan needs to get a grip and only talk about things that can win him the election.


10 posted on 08/17/2004 9:38:14 AM PDT by Semi Civil Servant (I spent Chanukah in the Hamptons, and Christmas in Cambodia.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Keyes Will Force Debate On The Real Issues

Like reparations?

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

11 posted on 08/17/2004 9:39:58 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Did I mention I'm peddling a book?)
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To: Catspaw

Watch this issue carefully:
What he said was that, rather than cash payments as reparations, he favored exempting from federal income taxes those who could prove they were descendants of slaves - leaving out for example his opponent Barak Osama.

Now: How many of those who can prove they're the descendants of slaves actually have federal income taxes to pay? And how many instead are receiving "negative taxes" or rather the federal "earned income credit"?

Will the "exemption" from federal taxes mean the end of those federal handouts?
Would that be a bad thing?


12 posted on 08/17/2004 9:40:14 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Redbob

You've got to be kidding.


13 posted on 08/17/2004 9:45:41 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: French-American Republican; Dave S
Oh, my?!

Keyes has plan for reparations

...Prompted by a reporter's question, Keyes gave a brief tutorial on Roman history and said that in regard to reparations for slavery, the U.S. should do what the Romans did: "When a city had been devastated [in the Roman empire], for a certain length of time--a generation or two--they exempted the damaged city from taxation."

Keyes proposed that for a generation or two, African-Americans of slave heritage should be exempted from federal taxes--federal because slavery "was an egregious failure on the part of the federal establishment." In calling for the tax relief, Keyes appeared to be reaching out to capture the black vote, something that may prove difficult to do, particularly after his unwelcome reception at the Bud Billiken Day Parade Saturday.

The former ambassador said his plan would give African-Americans "a competitive edge in the labor market," because those exempted would be cheaper to hire than federal tax-paying employees and would "compensate for all those years when your labor was being exploited."

Under Keyes' plan, African-Americans would still have to pay the Social Security tax, because "it's not a tax in the strict sense," said Keyes, calling it instead a payment to support a social insurance program...

As for our domestic spend-happy compassionate drunken sailor of a President, he's done a hell of a lot worse.

14 posted on 08/17/2004 9:46:01 AM PDT by BufordP (FLASH! Bush rumored to drop Cheney from ticket. Log Cabin Republicans respond: "WE WANT DICK!")
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To: Semi Civil Servant
his desire to get rid of the direct election of U.S. Senators

Actually, Keyes doidn't bring this up. The Illinois press printed an article based on comments Keyes made about 5 years ago.

15 posted on 08/17/2004 9:51:00 AM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
If specifically asked in a press conference, President Bush will endorse Keyes.

Basically, you mean - if his arm is twisted out of its socket. Yep.

16 posted on 08/17/2004 10:02:09 AM PDT by BufordP (FLASH! Bush rumored to drop Cheney from ticket. Log Cabin Republicans respond: "WE WANT DICK!")
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To: Dave S
Abortion and reparations for blacks

You forgot race.

As we were informed yesterday, Keyes is blacker than Obama.

17 posted on 08/17/2004 10:41:48 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: Catspaw
"You've got to be kidding."

One of us is, me or Alan Keyes...

18 posted on 08/17/2004 10:43:13 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: kevkrom
The Illinois press printed an article based on comments Keyes made about 5 years ago.

So he did bring it up then, right?

19 posted on 08/17/2004 10:43:53 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: Howlin; Chi-townChief; Sub-Driver; swilhelm73; dead; Aquinasfan; outlawcam
Let's not forget...

Obama is Islamic.

Obama was not born in Illinois either.

As a half-white candidate, Obama is the choice of separationists, who insist by definition he IS black...
Ironically, Obama is the candidate of the racial segregationist. It is not because segregationists want him to be a Senator. It is because he is classified African-American using the standards of racial segregationists.

Obama is called an African–American. However, Obama is half-white. His father, who was black, abandoned him and his mother when he was about two years old. He lived with his white mother and white grandparents.

Considering a mixed race individual an African-American is a typical liberal practice. They routinely refer to anyone who is partially black as black. Tiger Woods, Halle Berry and Mariah Carey are all mixed race celebrities regularly referred to by the liberal media as black. Tiger Woods has had the gall to complain about this. (With good reason; his mother is Asian.)

Ironically, this custom by liberals and Democrats of referring to partially black people as black is simply a reiteration of the old racist, Jim Crow, "one-eighth law." In racist locales, such as segregation-era Louisiana, people with as little as one-eighth African-American ancestry were classified as black. This classification led to dramatic curtailments of freedom. In Missouri and Mississippi, "The marriage of a white person with a negro or mulatto or person who shall have one-eighth or more of negro blood, shall be unlawful and void." Obama is black only by the standards of white segregationists.

By insisting that mixed-race individuals be considered black, Democrats -- the party of the unreconstructed South -- are displaying their segregationist roots.

Obama the candidate is conservative only when addressing a national television audience. Ironically, the oddball Black Commentator magazine is partially correct. Obama is a stealth candidate -- a liberal stealth candidate.

20 posted on 08/17/2004 10:56:05 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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