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Keyes has plans for reparations
Chicago Tribune ^ | 8/17/04 | Allison Benedikt and David Mendell

Posted on 08/17/2004 5:58:48 AM PDT by Aquinasfan

One day after their first meeting, U.S. Senate hopefuls Barack Obama and Alan Keyes were back on the campaign trail again Monday.

Speaking at a news conference at the Hotel InterContinental in Chicago, Republican Keyes added to his now familiar talking points his stance on slavery reparations.

Prompted by a reporter's question, Keyes gave a brief tutorial on Roman history and said that in regard to reparations for slavery, the U.S. should do what the Romans did: "When a city had been devastated [in the Roman empire], for a certain length of time--a generation or two--they exempted the damaged city from taxation."

Keyes proposed that for a generation or two, African-Americans of slave heritage should be exempted from federal taxes--federal because slavery "was an egregious failure on the part of the federal establishment." In calling for the tax relief, Keyes appeared to be reaching out to capture the black vote, something that may prove difficult to do, particularly after his unwelcome reception at the Bud Billiken Day Parade Saturday...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: apologistsforkeyes; atotalnutcase; flipflopalan; keyes; panderalan; pullsracecardagain; reparations; solomonsplitlibbaby; taxwhitesonly
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To: Howlin
But one thing that has been a constant on this forum is NO REPARATIONS of any kind, period.

Another thing that has been constant on this forum is freedom of speech, but several folks dreamed up defenses to CFR when that crap got passed.

621 posted on 08/17/2004 11:30:50 AM PDT by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: jmc813
I suspect of his supporters here do as well.

You could have fooled me.

623 posted on 08/17/2004 11:31:27 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: Howlin

It's the same logic and you're defending it. These are the rags that trashed the first GOP candidate by digging up his divorce. They're leftist to the core and you're swallowing their swill and selling it too.


624 posted on 08/17/2004 11:31:35 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: GetZarqawiNow
It's still cash for being a member of their racial groiup, which is bigotted on its face.

I am not saying that I disagree with you. I would like to see it fleshed out a little more before commenting myself. I am partially the descendant of slaves, and while I could certianly use some tax relief, I don't necessarily need it because I am black. I THINK my point was/is that targeted tax relief is not synonymous with reperations. I mean they literally don't mean the same thing and I think it muddies the discussion to use them interchangably or to say that Keyes proposed reperations or whatever.

BTW: Would you mind quoting me back whatever comments I made to you when I reply. I might be carrying on several discussions here and could get confused.

625 posted on 08/17/2004 11:31:49 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger
Is tax relief now synonymous with reperations?

It is when the tax relief is implemented as, and considered as, reparations...

626 posted on 08/17/2004 11:32:09 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Real Men Like Bush)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Sorry. You can't dress up this pig of an idea.

Can you name one other candidate for the United States Senate this year that is getting this kind of coverage? Or 4-5 threads per day at FR?

Where was he two weeks ago? Answer - somewhere in Maryland! LOL.

Since then (and I'm sure I've missed a lot of it), he's moved to Illinois, become a candidate for one of the state's highest public offices, enlightened everyone on the many distinctions to be made between the various species of carpetbaggers, likened his opponent to a modern slaveholder, challenged the way Illinois selects occupants for the very office he's running for, and now he's advocating the creation of what would appear to most people to be a race-based tax system. And, none of these positions have really been "choices" in the ordinary sense, but are instead proposals compelled by fundamental moral principles (or imperatives, as he likes to call them).

I am toying with the idea of creating a thread that would permit people to come up with some more ideas to help him keep this train running!! ;-)

627 posted on 08/17/2004 11:32:13 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Bob J
I think that is the problem. We see very little vocal disagreement.

Well count me in as a big fan of Keyes who thinks his idea on reparations sucks.

628 posted on 08/17/2004 11:33:05 AM PDT by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: Howlin

Hmm...I really don't like having to do it, but when I see a RINO that really isn't part of the solution, but rather someone holding back the GOP, a Party I would love to call home again, and you are flaming RINO danger to America, who posts a LOT of flaming anti-Conservative rhetoric that needs to be addressed. You either get paid to subvert the Conservative Movement or you have no life as a bitter old hag...you tell me, because you know everything.


629 posted on 08/17/2004 11:33:30 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: TigersEye

You're desperate to make this about the newspaper for some reason.

You used Jesse Jackson's own quotes as a source; live with it.


630 posted on 08/17/2004 11:33:33 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: jmc813

That's me next to you in line...lol.


631 posted on 08/17/2004 11:34:10 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: ApesForEvolution

The further behind you get, the more personal your attacks become.


632 posted on 08/17/2004 11:34:28 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: Bob J

Let's just see how this gets contextualized in the next few hours and days, before throwing Alan Keyes of all people, out with the bathwater. That's all.


633 posted on 08/17/2004 11:35:17 AM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Aquinasfan

i thought that's what we did with college scholarships and career advancement. how many did without to advance others for this reason?

one might argue that the biggest beneficiaries in the last 30 years have been middle and upper class feminists.


634 posted on 08/17/2004 11:35:49 AM PDT by ken21
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
The compensation on the table is tax cuts. I didn't suggest it, but it doesn't seem like such a bad idea when it comes with education on personal responsibility and exposing and ending the socialist programs that has these folks as serfs now. If it wakes them up, it's a pittance of the tax total that will not be missed. It's focusing on the big picture.

What does the big picture look like in IL w/o Keyes?

635 posted on 08/17/2004 11:36:26 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: unspun

Yeah really...I think I will wait for Keyes to explain.


637 posted on 08/17/2004 11:36:46 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: FITZ
"To me this is one of the best things I've heard lately."

Please clairfy what "this" is.

Tnx.

638 posted on 08/17/2004 11:37:30 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: Happy2BMe

a tax cut


639 posted on 08/17/2004 11:38:16 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: spunkets
but it doesn't seem like such a bad idea when it comes with education on personal responsibility and exposing and ending the socialist programs that has these folks as serfs now.

Well, where does it say that all of the "socialist programs that has these folks as serfs now" will actually end? I don't see that on the table as part of the proposal anywhere...

640 posted on 08/17/2004 11:38:47 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Real Men Like Bush)
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