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Keyes has plans for reparations
Chicago Tribune ^ | 8/17/04 | Allison Benedikt and David Mendell

Posted on 08/17/2004 5:58:48 AM PDT by Aquinasfan

One day after their first meeting, U.S. Senate hopefuls Barack Obama and Alan Keyes were back on the campaign trail again Monday.

Speaking at a news conference at the Hotel InterContinental in Chicago, Republican Keyes added to his now familiar talking points his stance on slavery reparations.

Prompted by a reporter's question, Keyes gave a brief tutorial on Roman history and said that in regard to reparations for slavery, the U.S. should do what the Romans did: "When a city had been devastated [in the Roman empire], for a certain length of time--a generation or two--they exempted the damaged city from taxation."

Keyes proposed that for a generation or two, African-Americans of slave heritage should be exempted from federal taxes--federal because slavery "was an egregious failure on the part of the federal establishment." In calling for the tax relief, Keyes appeared to be reaching out to capture the black vote, something that may prove difficult to do, particularly after his unwelcome reception at the Bud Billiken Day Parade Saturday...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: apologistsforkeyes; atotalnutcase; flipflopalan; keyes; panderalan; pullsracecardagain; reparations; solomonsplitlibbaby; taxwhitesonly
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To: carenot
That did not come out exactly right. LOL

I should have said that I demand equal reparations for past wrongs done to my family as well.

While we are at it, I want a check, a new car and free medical care for life.

No, I do not care who has to pay for it......................I believe that my demands are those of a patriot and a war hero.[double sarc]

I do not believe I will make it to November without hospitalization.:-)

361 posted on 08/17/2004 9:16:39 AM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: mhking
"...create enough tension in the race to win, and that includes pandering."

I think he does understand IL politics. It's a rat stronghold. In short he needs to short out that Chicago machine. Regardless of this proposal, Keyes supports low taxes in general. Simply taking a message of low taxes into Chicago will get him funny looks. He's going to have to gain their ear.

As far as the rest of the State goes, he doesn't have to work as hard as he does around Chicago. Obama's a Chicago politician, folks elsewhere don't have any particular attachment to him. (excluding the typical rat orgs) All he has to do is show up down there and those folks will feel loved. He already has the conservative credentials to counter Obama.

The important part of this story that's been missed sofar is the lack of support he got from the party. Seems he was essentially the only one that showed at the Chicago parade. The other candidates from the primary don't seem to be that concerned about the principles and issues they promoted. Keyes has the ball now. They're not there backing him up. They should be if their candidacy was not just about them.

362 posted on 08/17/2004 9:16:41 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: TigersEye

Yeah, I'm ALWAYS posting in a nasty tone. I'm sure the majority of people here on FR would agree with that statement - not.

However, one wonders how you can tell my "tone" from printed characters on a screen?

Whatever. I'm done with you - you believe Keyes can do no wrong, and even when he plays a blatant race card you give him a free pass. That tells me everything I need to know about you.


363 posted on 08/17/2004 9:17:18 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Real Men Like Bush)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Keyes is not a one topic debater. No taxes for slave descendants is still the beginning of no taxes. The deeper debate. Point/counterpoint--deeper debate.
364 posted on 08/17/2004 9:17:38 AM PDT by Right_Handed_Writer (Keyes is Making Sense, Obama is Making Excuses.)
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To: Nonstatist
Most Blacks pay far more in Social Security and Medicare taxes than they do in income taxes

Statistics please.

365 posted on 08/17/2004 9:18:08 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: cyborg
The end of slavery did not spell automatic equality for black people with all the rights and privileges that white people enjoyed. People forget that when having these discussions. Treating people equally under the law is only a recent trend. Reparations is a bad idea though, just look at this thread.

Exactly right. We can't correct past inequalities in the law by creating more. I apologize for accusing you of liberal tactics based solely on your response to me.

366 posted on 08/17/2004 9:18:13 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Theft is theft even if the government is your thug.)
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To: TigersEye

I think a lot of people who would have voted for him are second guessing. As I said before, he better hurry up and explain because all a lot of white people are hearing is 'handout for blacks'. If he has some other larger point about taxes, he better make it fast.


367 posted on 08/17/2004 9:18:26 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Bob J

I take it you don't want them to reduce the Federal government?


368 posted on 08/17/2004 9:18:28 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The majority of blacks pay no income taxes anyway.

Statistics please?

369 posted on 08/17/2004 9:18:56 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: cyborg
As I said before, he better hurry up and explain because all a lot of white people are hearing is 'handout for blacks'. If he has some other larger point about taxes, he better make it fast.

I agree completely. The press needs to give him lots of airtime to do it.

370 posted on 08/17/2004 9:19:30 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: Right_Handed_Writer

We will never have, nor should we ever, have "no taxes". Taxes should be reasonable, and FAIR - i.e. everyone pays the same percentage. Anything else is unjust.

Letting one specific group pay less is unjust. Period.


371 posted on 08/17/2004 9:20:08 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Real Men Like Bush)
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To: Bob J
"If not, the shortfall will have to be made up by raising someone else's taxes."

Not really. If Keyes is in and promotes this, he can cut off Mayor Daley and all the other dim bozos around the country raiding the US Treasury.

372 posted on 08/17/2004 9:20:19 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: tnlibertarian

that's okay. What's a little spirited debate among FRiends? Anyway, I think reparations would engender more racial division, more ethnic discrimination,etc... it's just a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE idea. I bet the islamonazis are laughing, since they don't care who is black,white or otherwise.


373 posted on 08/17/2004 9:20:27 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Aquinasfan
"Slaves, and now their descendents, will never have been compensated by the government for their unjust suffering."

So you believe the government (which is code word for taxpayers) should be responsible for compensating everyone who has had some injustice visited upon them? Plus, that "compensation" should not only be awarded to those suffering the injustice but to all their heirs, and their heirs heirs, for hundreds of years?

Wow.

374 posted on 08/17/2004 9:21:08 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: TigersEye; Bob J
I take it you don't want them to reduce the Federal government?

Watch it, Bob - this is how "tigerseyes" does it. Totally ignores the point, and twists stuff into what is not there.

375 posted on 08/17/2004 9:21:40 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Real Men Like Bush)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Whatever. I'm done with you ...

Thank Gawd! I thought you'd never go away.

376 posted on 08/17/2004 9:21:51 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: TigersEye

They won't. They'll take soundbites and run with it. Keyes has to force himself upon the spectrum of debate.


377 posted on 08/17/2004 9:22:02 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Chad Fairbanks

I thought you were gone. Can't trust a thing you say.


378 posted on 08/17/2004 9:22:31 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Dog Gone; Carolinamom; TomServo

Hold the phone: I'm late to this thread; are "real" conservatives now in favor of reparations?


379 posted on 08/17/2004 9:22:49 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: cyborg
Keyes has to force himself upon the spectrum of debate.

I think he just has. What a storm this has created. Let's see if the Chicago Tribune and Sun Times can ignore it.

380 posted on 08/17/2004 9:23:50 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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