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IBM Goes For the Jugular
Groklaw ^ | Monday, August 16 2004 @ 11:16 AM EDT | Groklaw.net

Posted on 08/16/2004 6:37:09 PM PDT by amigatec

IBM Goes For the Jugular -- Files Motion For Partial Summary Judgment on Contract Claims!

Monday, August 16 2004 @ 11:16 AM EDT

Here is IBM's Redacted Memorandum in Support of Motion for Partial Summary Judgment On Breach of Contract Claims, filed by IBM on Friday. It's a hundred-page document. As you will see, they are going for the jugular now. Astoundingly, they say that all parties involved in the contract between AT&T and IBM have now provided testimony in discovery that IBM has the right to do whatever it wishes with its own code, contrary to SCO's claims, or as the memorandum puts it, they all provided "unequivocal testimony that the agreements were not intended and should not be understood to preclude IBM's use and disclosure of homegrown code and contemporaneous documents reflect this interpretation of the licenses".

SCO thought it was going to find evidence in discovery to boster its case, but it has worked out exactly the opposite. I haven't finished reading the memorandum myself, because I wanted to share it with you immediately, but it looks like this is the heart of what's left of SCO's case. Everything you hoped IBM would say to the judge, they are saying, including pointing out that Novell has waived any breach, even if there had been one, which there wasn't. If IBM wins this motion, I think I might be in my red dress soon.

Read the rest at: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040816111607708

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TOPICS: Technical
KEYWORDS: ibm; linux; sco
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This may be it!!!!
1 posted on 08/16/2004 6:37:09 PM PDT by amigatec
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To: rdb3; TechJunkYard

Call the Penguins!!


2 posted on 08/16/2004 6:38:40 PM PDT by amigatec (There are no significant bugs in our software... Maybe you're not using it properly.- Bill Gates)
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To: rdb3

Got Root?? Ping alert requested


3 posted on 08/16/2004 6:47:06 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: amigatec

Penguin PC's are becoming popular, powerful, and persnickity.

4 posted on 08/16/2004 6:52:32 PM PDT by PokeyJoe
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To: amigatec

btw - Amiga is almost as cool as Fedora Core 3.


5 posted on 08/16/2004 6:54:02 PM PDT by PokeyJoe
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To: PokeyJoe
Core "3"?

Their site only lists core 2.

6 posted on 08/16/2004 6:59:31 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: amigatec

SCO SUX

TUX ROCKS.


blessings, Bobo


7 posted on 08/16/2004 7:12:03 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: AFreeBird

beta is out. 3 test 1


8 posted on 08/16/2004 7:15:27 PM PDT by PokeyJoe
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To: AFreeBird
Core "3"?

Their site only lists core 2.


Fedora Core 3 Test 1 was released back in July 2004.

isos are available here, as well as other sites.

Or, you can join the torrent.
9 posted on 08/16/2004 7:22:42 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney, too.)
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To: AFreeBird; rdb3

Got root, and bookmark.


10 posted on 08/16/2004 7:42:59 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: amigatec
Can we say: SCO-REWED? ;-)

And Lew Mettler has some interesting commentary over at LamLaw.

11 posted on 08/16/2004 9:29:55 PM PDT by TechJunkYard (http://scaryjohnkerry.com/)
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To: amigatec

YaHoo!


12 posted on 08/16/2004 9:46:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: amigatec
And we have this:

City of Bergen in one of the largest Linus migrations in Europe

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Novell has announced that the second largest city in Norway, the city of Bergen, has chosen Novell's Linux technology to underpin its technology infrastructure, moving away from its proprietary Unix and Microsoft Windows applications platform. Bergen's two-phased implementation of SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 8 will impact 50 000 users of the city's administrative and educational networks.

Janicke Runshaug Foss, CIO of the city of Bergen commented, "The most important issue for the city is to provide the best possible public services to our citizens through cost-effective municipal operation. In addition to the IT-based benefits from migrating to Linux, we attain a business model that doesn't tie us to a single vendor's solution architecture. By migrating to Linux the city has a business model that is open and democratic, and we believe that will ensure a greater degree of freedom of choice, more efficient operation and major cost savings that will benefit the citizens."

The implementation involves IBM and HP and will initially see the 20 existing Oracle database servers running on HP-UX, powering the city's core health and welfare services applications among others, being replaced with SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 8 running on HP Integrity Itanium 64 bit servers.

The second phase of the implementation will involve the migration and consolidation of current Microsoft Windows application servers powering the educational network to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 8 on IBM eServer BladeCenters. The stability and scalability of SUSE Linux on IBM blade servers will enable the city to significantly consolidate its over 100 Microsoft Windows application servers to 20 IBM blade servers running SUSE Linux.

"With 32 000 students and 4000 teachers accessing the educational network, the city's current server environment was not scaling with growing demand," said Michel Teyssedre, IBM vice president business development EMEA. "Our IBM eServer BladeCenters running on Linux will allow the city of Bergen to take full advantage of all the benefits Linux brings, enabling growth in the future."

"The city's current database servers run several critical applications so it was key that the new solution offered maximum uptime while being cost effective," said Rudi Schmickl, VP of Enterprise Storage and Servers - EMEA, HP. "Our HP Integrity Itanium 64 bit servers address those needs, including the city's overall vision to underpin its infrastructure with Linux."

The implementation is expected to be completed by the end of 2004 and the subsequent efficiencies from the new IT operation will ensure the city reaps major cost savings, resulting in the availability of more funds being channelled to build core public services for the citizens of Bergen.

"The city of Bergen needed to do more with less while preparing for further growth and Novell, together with its hardware and software partners, were able to provide the Linux solution that met the city's exacting needs," said Richard Seibt, president of Novell EMEA. "The advantages of Linux such as lower costs and greater reliability are clear and will certainly continue to drive Linux adoption among enterprise and public sector organisations."

For more information contact Trish Barwick, channel and marketing manager, Novell SA, 011 322 8300,

13 posted on 08/16/2004 10:56:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: amigatec
This may be it!!!!

And how many times have we heard that now? At least five or six.

I'll admit this latest filing includes a lot of new information that very well may bolster IBM's view, but it is new information and only one side is represented in the filing. The original contract did seem to grant the Unix owner rights to derivative code:

2.01 AT&T grants to LICENSEE a personal, nontransferable and nonexclusive right to use in the United States each SOFTWARE PRODUCT identified in the one or more Supplements hereto, solely for LICENSEE'S own internal business purposes and solely on or in conjunction with DESIGNATED CPUs for such SOFTWARE PRODUCT. Such right to use includes the right to modify such SOFTWARE PRODUCT and to prepare derivative works based on such SOFTWARE PRODUCT, provided the resulting materials are treated hereunder as part of the original SOFTWARE PRODUCT.

This is the exact wording of the contract that Sequent (now owned by IBM) signed, and for non-lawyers such as myself seems pretty clear any "resulting materials" are under the same restrictions as the original software.

But as I said this contains new depositions from some of the original ATT employees that may indicate the contract was poorly worded and didn't convey the original intent. IANAL but I don't believe the judge necessarily has to even care, if the original contract seems clear and was signed by all parties, which does seem to be the case.

Bottom line, will the judge toss the case based on deposition alone and no in-court testimony? I doubt it, not when the contract itself seemed so clear. And bottom line for 'Linux', even if it wins this case, it's likely many more await for patent infringement. Don't blame me, this is the way the business/legal world works, and Torvalds and Stallman don't get a free pass.

14 posted on 08/17/2004 5:38:55 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
.. as I said this contains new depositions from some of the original ATT employees that may indicate the contract was poorly worded and didn't convey the original intent.

And that's why AT&T re-worded that section, and clarified the meaning in $echo, because it was poorly-worded and left a lot of licensees confused.. including IBM.

If the contract is confusing, the courts can look at the intent of the parties to the contract. SCOG didn't research the intent -- they just (mis)interpreted the literal meaning of the original words... as you are doing now and as you have consistently done.

However, there is now more to that paragraph than what you had quoted... which clears things up a bit.

"Such right to use includes the right to modify such SOFTWARE PRODUCT and to prepare derivative works based on such SOFTWARE PRODUCT, provided the resulting materials are that any such modification or derivative work that contains any part of a SOFTWARE PRODUCT subject to this agreement is treated hereunder as part of the original the same as such SOFTWARE PRODUCT. AT&T-IS claims no ownership interest in any portion of such a modification or derivitave work that is not part of a SOFTWARE PRODUCT."

And therefore, since NUMA, SMP, RCU, JFS, EVMS, and all of the other stuff that SCOG objects to, did not originally appear in SVRx, IBM's position is that it was entitled to donate that portion of code to what/wherever it wanted. And they have the AT&T folks who wrote and signed that contract backing them up on this point.

Bottom line, will the judge toss the case based on deposition alone and no in-court testimony? I doubt it, not when the contract itself seemed so clear.

Actually, the bottom line is does SCOG have a case? Not anymore, it appears.

This may not be the final nail in the coffin just yet. We'll have to see how SCOG responds to this motion. And the hearing on this is gonna be a gas.

15 posted on 08/17/2004 9:23:36 AM PDT by TechJunkYard (http://scaryjohnkerry.com/)
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To: TechJunkYard

Look, the bottom line is that there's a lot of wishful thinking on both sides of this case. IBM won't be successful in a bid for partial summary judgement, in my view. There are simply too many material facts in dispute. But even so, that doesn't mean that SCO will eventually prevail, either. I will agree that it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out in court. Those of you who think the judge is predisposed to one side or the other should become more acquainted with reality. This judge has been very fair to both sides, and I see nothing which convinces me that there exists any predisposition.


16 posted on 08/17/2004 9:54:03 AM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Golden Eagle
Don't blame me,...

Why do you keep saying this? As far as I've seen, no one has blamed you for anything that has occurred. People may take issue with what you've said (posted), but not with what actually occurs. Besides, you have nothing to do with potential patent infringement by Linux, defending a case, trying a case, or anything else.

That phrase makes you sound defensive, unknowledgeable, and incompetant. Try to avoid it in the future.

17 posted on 08/17/2004 10:59:35 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
That phrase makes you sound defensive, unknowledgeable, and incompetant. Try to avoid it in the future.

He made some very good points in his post, and you ignored them. IBM may "go for the jugular," but you are apparently more prone to go for the ill-chosen phrase. We won't go into how that makes you sound, but I will recommend that you avoid it in the future.

18 posted on 08/17/2004 11:05:07 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb; Golden Eagle
I was ceding those points to him. I happen to agree with them, actually. Linux does face several potential patent infringment suits. Whether they are valid or not remains to be seen.

The purpose of my post was to try to provide some constructive criticism. I concede that it probably didn't come across that way, since we lack non-verbal communication with this medium. It was not meant to be nasty.

19 posted on 08/17/2004 11:35:26 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
Why do you keep saying this?

Simple, because I knew someone like you would come along and ignore my points and instead sling an insult. It was the very next post, as a matter of fact.

20 posted on 08/17/2004 11:49:01 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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