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"For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools..."--Romans 1:21,22
1 posted on 08/16/2004 12:16:14 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback
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If the rules of logic and evidence really applied to this subject, then there would be a lot more people that agreed and believed in the same thing.


2 posted on 08/16/2004 12:19:07 PM PDT by stuartcr (Neither, nor in '04)
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This is such an obvious fallacy. Can we really make something true just by believing it? How about a concrete example?

Okay. Is vanilla the absolutely best ice cream flavor in the world just because I believe it is?

Yes.
3 posted on 08/16/2004 12:22:58 PM PDT by BikerNYC
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4 posted on 08/16/2004 12:24:19 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Don't miss your chance to be a goon: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?


5 posted on 08/16/2004 12:24:21 PM PDT by jdege
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8 posted on 08/16/2004 12:26:51 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Don't miss your chance to be a goon: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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"...in this post-Christian age?"

This is a post-Christian Age? I don't think so.

9 posted on 08/16/2004 12:30:48 PM PDT by theDentist ("John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute.")
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I have found a wonderful book that might provide young people entering college with responses. What they most need is the courage to stand up for what they believe, because all the unbelievers have found a way to use a persons' self-doubt against them. They take advantage of the fact that the young person, wanting to seem open to new experiences, and willing to consider all sides fair, are usually ill-prepared with information about their own faith.

I know this, because it is what happened to me. I was always with the Catholic Student Center, but was unable to answer with a positive stance the aspersions cast my way by 'non-religious' people.

Oh, and anyeone going to college : avoid a group called The Great Commission. They are a CULT, not a group interested in spreading the Word of God. They may or may not have changed their name, but if they require that you cut off all ties to your family and new friends, and that you adhere to ONLY their philosophy of Christianity, then they are a group to be shunned.

13 posted on 08/16/2004 12:43:18 PM PDT by Alkhin (just another one of my fly-bys...he thinks I need keeping in order.)
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How odd. One set of believers in rather fanciful superstitions are gettign annoyed that other people believe in different fanciful superstitions, and aren't applying proper logic.

"Can we really make something true just by believing it?"

Well, everyone who believes in souls, ghosts, Heave, Hell, Nirvana, well-meaning liberal Democrats, demons and gods certainly seems to think so...


15 posted on 08/16/2004 12:58:04 PM PDT by orionblamblam
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"If you sincerely believe that you’re a frog, do you become a frog?"- Your faith has to be sufficiently strong for it. A mustard seed's worth of faith is claimed to move mountains. But as contemporary people are weak of faith, they do not become frogs.


39 posted on 08/16/2004 4:01:23 PM PDT by GSlob
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This is such an obvious fallacy. Can we really make something true just by believing it? How about a concrete example?

Sure. For example, if a person sincerely believes that they are a loser, they begin to subconciously sabotage their lives and become losers. I have seen this manifest time and time again.

157 posted on 08/18/2004 6:27:35 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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