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Kerry’s Brief Brotherhood (Kerry caught stealing a Swift Vet's words?)
nationalreview/ new republic/free republic ^ | 8-16-2004 | byron york

Posted on 08/16/2004 11:10:40 AM PDT by dennisw

   

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200408160842.asp    
Byron York today

For his part, Kerry has sometimes left the impression that he was present when Alston was wounded. Paying tribute to Alston's service during a speech before a South Carolina veterans' group in May 2002, Kerry said, according to an account in The New Republic, "He [Alston] sat up in a turret above my head in the pilot house — firing twin fifty-calibers to suppress enemy fire from ambushes. We were extremely exposed — always shot at first.... On one occasion in an ambush his turret was riddled with almost one hundred bullets penetrating the aluminum skin. This gunman kept firing even though he was wounded — one bullet going through his helmet, grazing his head and another hitting his arm...."

That description sounds precisely like the incident on January 29, 1969 in which Alston was wounded. But Lt. Peck, and not Kerry, was in command of PCF-94 that day.

According to a report in the Boston Globe, the Kerry campaign website has in the past listed Kerry as being the skipper of PCF-94 at the time of Alston's wounding. When Kerry's military records were first posted on the site, according to the Globe, "the campaign summarize[d] action that took place on Jan. 29, 1969, this way: 'While Kerry's boat and another (PCF-72) were probing a canal along the river, Kerry's boat came under heavy fire and was hit by a B-40 rocket in the cabin area. One member of Kerry's crew Forward Gunner David Alston suffered shrapnel wounds in his head....'" The campaign website also listed two other incidents that took place prior to January 29 as having occurred under Kerry's leadership.

Peck, who would later sign a letter to Kerry written by the anti-Kerry group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, protested. "Those are definitely mine," he told the Globe. "There is no doubt about it." The campaign later removed the January 29 reference from the website.

 

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From the New Republic 2002 and one of the few, if not only, results to come up in google.

And Vietnam isn't only an answer to Kerry's ideological vulnerabilities; it's an answer to his characterological ones as well: Out-of-touch, selfish rich kids didn't risk their lives in the jungles of Vietnam. Speaking before the South Carolina Democratic faithful in a dreary ballroom last month, Kerry introduced his former boatmate David Alston:

He sat up in a turret above my head in the pilot house--firing twin fifty-calibers to suppress enemy fire from ambushes. We were extremely exposed--always shot at first.... On one occasion in an ambush his turret was riddled with almost one hundred bullets penetrating the aluminum skin. This gunman kept firing even though he was wounded--one bullet going through his helmet, grazing his head and another hitting his arm....

Apart from McCain, no other possible presidential candidate can tell a story like that. Nor will they be able to air campaign ads like the rough Kerry biography video I saw, which shows vivid footage of PT boats speeding through Vietnamese jungle rivers, as a narrator recounts tales of Kerry's heroism. The words "courage and character," which sound like a slogan we'll be hearing more of, were repeated several times. As South Carolina Senator Fritz Hollings put it, in a glowing introduction at the state party convention, "John Kerry volunteered for combat, while George W. got an 'in' to the National Guard and got lost down in Alabama for over a year."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: byronyork; davidalston; kerry; militaryrecord; swiftboatveterans; swiftvets
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1 posted on 08/16/2004 11:10:41 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
This issue has been reported here many times.

I will, once again, repeat the Swifties request that people stop pressing this. The evidence is sketchy. Until their is 100% proof, it does not further the cause. There are a number of plausible scenarios that could have happened which would result in Alston and Kerry did serve on the same boat at the same time. Most do not realize that Alston was wounded twice, and it is unclear if Kerry commanded one of those 2 missions.

If people keep pushing the Alston angle and it turns out to be wrong, it will be used to discredit the whole movement.
2 posted on 08/16/2004 11:17:32 AM PDT by sharktrager (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the paving contractor lives in Chappaqua.)
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To: sharktrager

I concur except Alston has now admitted he was not on the boat as he described to ABC News and other audiences.


3 posted on 08/16/2004 11:19:59 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: dennisw

they had PT boats in Viet Nam? I know they had PBR's and Swift Boats, but I thought PT boats were declared obsolete at the end os WW-II. ?


4 posted on 08/16/2004 11:20:05 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: Steven W.

Do you have a link for that?


5 posted on 08/16/2004 11:23:38 AM PDT by sharktrager (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the paving contractor lives in Chappaqua.)
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To: sharktrager

Lt. Peck should know who sustained a head wound while serving under his command. Kerry was not in command of PCF-94 on the day in question. This is another "Christmas in Cambodia".....and no we should let it go.


6 posted on 08/16/2004 11:25:23 AM PDT by Dog ( Attention: Everyone check their briefcase for their "magic" secret agent hat... That is all.)
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To: camle
Kerry's boat was nicknamed PT-109. Just kidding.
7 posted on 08/16/2004 11:25:27 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: Dog

should=shouldn't


8 posted on 08/16/2004 11:26:24 AM PDT by Dog ( Attention: Everyone check their briefcase for their "magic" secret agent hat... That is all.)
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To: sharktrager
Most do not realize that Alston was wounded twice

Do you have a link to this bit of news..

9 posted on 08/16/2004 11:27:46 AM PDT by Dog ( Attention: Everyone check their briefcase for their "magic" secret agent hat... That is all.)
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To: sharktrager
From the article:

Whatever the exact dates, Hurley confirmed that Alston was not on board PCF-94 on February 28, 1969, the day Kerry earned a Silver Star for an engagement in which he beached his Swift Boat and chased down and killed a Viet Cong guerilla armed with a rocket launcher. That suggests that Alston, who was wounded on January 29, was indeed away for at least a month. Short was manning the guns on February 28 and received the Navy Commendation Medal for his work.

As he has numerous times, when interviewed on ABC News Alston told the 2/28 story as if he'd been there (which he hadn't)

10 posted on 08/16/2004 11:30:11 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: js1138

" Kerry's boat was nicknamed PT-109. Just kidding "

Actually, it was the PT Barnum.


11 posted on 08/16/2004 11:32:07 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue ( Kerry's motto-There's a sucker born every minute.)
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To: dennisw

George W. Bush flew possibly THE MOST dangerous jet fighter the military has ever had. The F-102 Delta Dagger was a VERY VERY unforgiving aircraft and ALOT of pilots lost their lives just in training! Bush's CO has said that Bush was in the top 5% of fighter pilots in the Air National Guard.


12 posted on 08/16/2004 11:34:25 AM PDT by Remington Rebel
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To: Steven W.
Except what is being reported ad-infinitum is that Alston NEVER serves with Kerry.

And if that is wrong (which it appears to be) then catching Kerry and Alston in their lies will have zero impact.
13 posted on 08/16/2004 11:40:49 AM PDT by sharktrager (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the paving contractor lives in Chappaqua.)
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To: Steven W.

Except what is being reported ad-infinitum is that Alston NEVER served with Kerry.

And if that is wrong (which it appears to be) then catching Kerry and Alston in their lies will have zero impact.


14 posted on 08/16/2004 11:41:04 AM PDT by sharktrager (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the paving contractor lives in Chappaqua.)
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To: sharktrager; Steven W.
Discussion of the Kerry/Alston story is TEMPORARILY banned at the Swifie's forums. Because the info is sketchy so far and why should the Swifties be embarrassed by what might be a non story?

http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2562

But it goes on elsewhere.


http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/

15 posted on 08/16/2004 11:42:53 AM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: sharktrager

Except what is being reported ad-infinitum is that Alston NEVER served with Kerry........


And that is exactly what Byron York says is not the case. Kerry appropriating another vet's words is very bizarre and low life.


16 posted on 08/16/2004 11:44:25 AM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: EdReform

read later


17 posted on 08/16/2004 11:48:29 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: sharktrager
Speculation is fine. It's all falling apart. Read the article. Alston now has memory problems. What used to exact is now sketchy. Alston & Short, who both work for the Kerry campaign can't agree on time-lines.

You are right about one thing, as long as memories are sketchy, we may never find out the facts about who was where between March 4 & March 13. And if there are no facts, the swiftvets wont touch it.
18 posted on 08/16/2004 11:48:44 AM PDT by stylin19a (when the situation calls for panic, never let it be said I did nothing)
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To: dennisw
And my point is that hyping this story is going to bite us in the ass if what is being said is not 100% correct. One mistake will hurt the credibility of the Swift Vets.

The fact is, Alston has said his head wound was not serious, and the scarring does not, in fact, prove it was. He has said the arm wound was more serious.

The man who took his place at the .50 cal says Alston did come back to the boat after his treatment, but wasn't there very long.

Regardless, if people want to say that Alston wasn't there the day of the Silver Star, fine, because that is proved beyond a reasonable doubt. And if they want to say that Kerry was not there the day Alston got his head wound, fine. That is also accurate.

But these threads keep saying Alston NEVER served with Kerry, and the evidence on that is sketchy at best, and it seems likely that Alston and Kerry did serve together very briefly.
19 posted on 08/16/2004 11:49:08 AM PDT by sharktrager (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the paving contractor lives in Chappaqua.)
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To: sharktrager
Your are right ... and wrong ;)

it should not be addresssed if not 100% accurate!

However, it is now confirmed by Kerry's campaign to be 100% accurate that "Alston was not on board PCF-94 on February 28, 1969" while Alston has claimed numerous times or misled people into thinking he was there that day when he wasn't.

20 posted on 08/16/2004 11:54:35 AM PDT by Steven W.
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