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To: Right Wing Professor
In thermodynamics, a spontaneous process in one that happens in a finite time under the existing conditions.

Well, that definition is equivalent to "what happens, happens". The dictionary defintion of spontaneous includes "Happening or arising without apparent external cause; self-generated. ". Now what happens to the surroundings of a closed system due to the events within the closed system? Nothing. It is a closed system.

878 posted on 08/20/2004 10:49:17 AM PDT by AndrewC (I am a Bertrand Russell agnostic, even an atheist.</sarcasm>)
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To: AndrewC
Well, that definition is equivalent to "what happens, happens". The dictionary defintion of spontaneous includes "Happening or arising without apparent external cause; self-generated. ".

Thermodynamics uses a specific technical definition of 'spontaneous' which is not the same as the conventional definition. If you want to discuss thermo., learn the jargon.

Now what happens to the surroundings of a closed system due to the events within the closed system? Nothing. It is a closed system.

Heat can leave a closed system. What you apparently mean is an adiabatic system. Once again, if you want to discuss thermo., learn the jargon.

879 posted on 08/20/2004 10:55:41 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor (www.swiftvets.com)
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