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To: Junior
You, yourself, have proven you do not understand what the actual theory of evolution says -- on this very thread.

Throwing out accusations doesn't make them true. You keep repeating the mantras in the misconception that I don't know them. You are too closed-minded to ever hear what I have to say, you just repeat the same argument by rote.

The difference here is that creationism is based on faith, and evolution is based on physical evidence.

LOL. That old canard. Both take a set of observations and draw conclusions. No observation conclusively prooves either, and can not. But one group admits the role of faith, while the other group screams a wild-eyed hissy whenever you note the role of faith in their system.

Creationists do not have theories, at least in the scientific sense of the word, so they can debate till the cows come home. Science is more constrained because of its reliance on evidence.

You are painting with a mighty broad brush there, confusing creationists with creation scientists. Many creationists understand that if creation is true it is a discontinuity that can not be measured by science, that it is by necessity invisible to science.

That is the reason why I find many "creation scientists" to be no better than "evolution scientists". They are both mixing science and religion in a way that gives spurious results and bad conclusions.

345 posted on 08/17/2004 11:30:18 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal

Okay, we'll see. What is your understanding of the theory of evolution?


375 posted on 08/17/2004 1:06:48 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: hopespringseternal
Both take a set of observations and draw conclusions. No observation conclusively prooves either, and can not. But one group admits the role of faith, while the other group screams a wild-eyed hissy whenever you note the role of faith in their system.

But only evolution makes predictions, which, if they were ever shown to be false (eg by lab work or fossil finds), would cause the theory to be *seriously* modified or abandoned altogether. For example,

Darwin himself predicted Precambrian life; no such fossils were known in his time. Today many are known

The phylogenetic tree constructed before the structure of genes was known predicts that a mutation found in people and baboons will also be found in chimps and gorillas. So far, the evidence supports this remarkable prediction.

Similarly, a mutation common to cows and whales will also be found in dolphins and hippos.

Standard biology predicts that there will never be a fossil mammal in Cambrian rocks. None has been found yet.

Until ID (or creationism) can make predictions about what will be found in fossils and genes - until there is some way to test whether ID (or creationism) fits the facts better than standard biology does - until then, ID (or C) remains mere armchair speculation - not a theory.

564 posted on 08/17/2004 10:00:51 PM PDT by Virginia-American (What do you call an honest creationist? An evolutionist.)
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