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To: horatio

Oh please! The man believes in intelligent design, which is both reasonable and supportable. Werner von Braun (a true scientist who accomplished something tangible and measurable--never called a crackpot) believed in intelligent design-written down by his own hand with his reasons for believing.

The reason Evolution is accepted as a proven (almost) group of facts is precisely because of the scientific/educational totalitarianism shown in this article. There are still holes in evolution theory, and many of the texts used to support evolution are full of "facts" not supported by biology, which was a science the last time I looked.

If PC scientists have their way, environmental issues still only theories will be forced into the ONLY scientifically acceptable answers by the same sort of gulag that has pushed evolution.

I hate that the educational system pushed by lib Dems and a great many conservatives wants to do away with open debate, and stifle any speech by a dissenting person.

vaudine


243 posted on 08/16/2004 7:40:53 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: vaudine
Very good post. I have this quote below which explains these people for me:

For example, many nontheists are also secular humanists and have a much more highly developed moral system than theism usually provides, since secular humanists apply reason and empathy to decide what is moral, while theists usually attempt to apply the inconsistent and often irrational standards which come from their "holy" book.

As old George would say, some animals are more equal than others. Which leads me to believe they have missed the whole point of what and who we are.
247 posted on 08/16/2004 8:34:13 PM PDT by microgood
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To: vaudine

Oh please, Werner Von Braun was a rocket scientist, not a biologist.

You can be a scientist and "believe" whatever you want, as long as it does not effect your work.

To say that Intelligent Design is a scientific theory is to risk being called a crackpot, why? Because the existence of a designer cannot be scientifically proven, therefore the "Theory" is nothing more then a shot in the dark, not even a hypothesis.

God did it is not a scientific statement, it is an excuse for being and staying ignorant of the actual causes.

Evolution has the sciences of Biology, genetics, paleontology, archeology, etc. etc ad nauseum.

Most of the sciences of today have thier basis in evolutionary theory, without evolutionary theory, they would not exist as scientific disciplines.

So to say there are holes, is truthful, but to say that it is therefore not proven, is false


249 posted on 08/16/2004 8:43:26 PM PDT by Jaguar1942
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