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To: horatio
Once again, you're avoiding the question. I'm starting to think that you don't want to answer it.

Have you stopped beating your wife?

Your question is loaded with assumptions that you will not let go of, and therefore precludes any meaningful answer.

Are you seriously suggesting that scientists who deal with evolutionary processes don't have any opinion on evolution?

You listed a whole gamut of disciplines, proclaimed them to deal with "evolutionary processes" and then demand to know why they all believe in evolution. I told you, the "evolutionary processes" you proclaim them to work with only have a tenuous connection to evolution, and the connection evolution has to their discipline is nonexistant.

I'll ask one last time. Why do you think the scientific community has overwhelmingly accepted evolution?

Because they aren't hip deep with it on a daily basis. It has no real effect on their paychecks unless they get noisy about denying it. So the cost to accept it is negligible and the cost of making it an issue is their career. Gee, you tell me.

Or, if you prefer, why do you think that no reputable scientific organization espouses creationism?

Because "God did it" is lousy science. You can't coherently describe the natural world by constantly appealing to the supernatural.

156 posted on 08/16/2004 2:48:26 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal
LOL!

Are you seriously suggesting that there is a vast undercurrent of creationists in the sciences, who are afraid to speak up lest they lose their paychecks? That's the best tin-foil argument I've heard in months.

All the disciplines I listed have an underpinning of evolution. People who believe the world is 4000 years old don't make very good geologists or astronomers.

You can't coherently describe the natural world by constantly appealing to the supernatural.

That's the first thing you've said that I can agree with. "Creation science" is not science. No reputable scientists truly believe in strict creationism as an explanation for the universe.

158 posted on 08/16/2004 2:57:04 PM PDT by horatio
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To: hopespringseternal
Because "God did it" is lousy science. You can't coherently describe the natural world by constantly appealing to the supernatural.

Did a creationist just admit that?

That is one of the most profound statements I have seen on this thread.

"God did it" is lousy science.......

And ID is exactly saying what again?

"The designer did it", right? So, "if God did it" is lousy science, therefore, "the Designer did it" is lousy science, therefore, ID is LOUSY science.

Wow, put it all in a logic tree and watch where it takes us....
163 posted on 08/16/2004 3:09:59 PM PDT by Jaguar1942
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