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To: swilhelm73
"One glaring problem here...the latter Mongol hordes *were* Muslims."

? The Mongols conquered much of Islam and the Ottoman Empire, and some of them may have been 'absorbed' into the Islamic cult, but the the Huns and Moslems were at war against each other. The Huns (Mongols) conquered and reconqured Baghdad and Persia, but it was an Egyptian army commanded by Marmeluke Sultan Kutuz who won the first victory against the Mongols.

19 posted on 08/16/2004 4:49:04 AM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II (c 1097 a.d.))
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To: TheCrusader

The first muslim leader of the Mongols was Baraka Khan of the Golden Horde in 1256. Eventually all of the western Mongols would become Muslims.


26 posted on 08/16/2004 10:34:31 AM PDT by swilhelm73 (When Saddam Hussein ruled Iraq, his son murdered 2,000 people in the Abu Gharib prison in *one* day.)
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To: TheCrusader
The Huns (Mongols) conquered and reconqured Baghdad and Persia, but it was an Egyptian army commanded by Marmeluke Sultan Kutuz who won the first victory against the Mongols.
The Huns were not Mongols. The Huns were a Turkic and Iranian Steppe culture. Even the Hephtalite, the white Huns who ruled int he east and had Juan-Juan/Mongol subjects were not Mongols.

The Ottoman Empire did not really exist in the 13th century. The Mongols did destroy the Seljuk Empire, which allowed the Uthman/Osmani clan to later dominate the Oghur Turks of Anatolia and then form the Ottomans.

28 posted on 08/16/2004 12:08:27 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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