[Coleus]

I might add, the break-down was taking root,
in the 60's & 70's >>>

It started way before that with the secular humanist movement, it just took time for the brainwashing and evil agenda too take effect.

[LadyPilgrim]

You're right!

And in the 60's & 70's it got to it's loudest point, to change the law of the land!

[redgolum]

We are seeing the fruits of our great grandfathers today. In the later 1800's, there was a gradual but definite shift away from Christianity. People known as Spiritualists began to gain fame and influence. The rise in the occult and secularism brought us the Nazi's and Communist's. This is not a sudden or recent thing.

Still, I have a bit of hope. The bride to be and I were eating at a local fast food joint the day after Bush and Kerry blew through town. A group of teenagers was having a loud and boisterous discussion behind us. One was talking about the protesters at the Bush speech, screaming that the Iraq war was killing Iraqi children, while wearing pro choice stickers.

The young lady simply asked the protester "Doesn't abortion kill babies too?"

I don't know, maybe the west has gone to far over the cliff, but I have hope.