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Better to Take the Fight to Them Than Let Them Bring It to Us
The Naples [FL] Daily News ^ | August 15, 2004 | Ben Bova

Posted on 08/15/2004 9:07:01 AM PDT by quidnunc

"Men cry, 'peace, peace,'" said Patrick Henry, "but there is no peace. The war has already begun."

Today in America there are people who loudly insist they are against war. "No war!" their bumper stickers proclaim.

They believe that we should not have invaded Iraq. They apparently feel that we should wait for the next terrorist attack on our own soil, rather than rooting out the terrorists and their supporters where they live.

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There's another point, too, one enunciated by retired General Tommy Franks, the officer who directed our invasion of Iraq.

"If you want your grandchildren to grow up in an open society," Gen. Franks said in a recent interview, "we'd better deal with the problem (of terrorism) as far away from here as possible, even though that's not easy or easily affordable."

In other words, terrorist strikes on us here at home will inevitably lead to tighter security within our own borders, to stricter controls over our own travel, our own flow of information, our own civil liberties. Many Americans are already protesting the restrictions imposed by the Homeland Security law, but the more terrorists strike at us, the tighter such restrictions will inevitably become.

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(Excerpt) Read more at naplesnews.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: homelandsecurity; offense; offensive

1 posted on 08/15/2004 9:07:01 AM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

'Note to the strategically challenged at the DU' ...bump


2 posted on 08/15/2004 9:23:11 AM PDT by JPJones
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To: quidnunc
This problem will never be solved until we solve the root causes. The way to solve the root causes is to kill the Jihadists. Bullets in their chests and bullets in their heads takes care of both hearts and minds.
3 posted on 08/15/2004 10:07:51 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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Its of little use. I learned from debating these bozos during the Cold War - they are idiots when it comes to foreign policy.

Disqualifier: Anyone who can't understand why Iraq was part of the larger War Against Terrorism has no bussiness discussing foreign policy.


4 posted on 08/15/2004 10:08:22 AM PDT by Fenris6
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To: quidnunc
"In other words, terrorist strikes on us here at home will inevitably lead to tighter security within our own borders, to stricter controls over our own travel, our own flow of information, our own civil liberties. Many Americans are already protesting the restrictions imposed by the Homeland Security law, but the more terrorists strike at us, the tighter such restrictions will inevitably become."

Sounds like a self fulfilling prophesy guaranteed by the negligence of our elected officials in washington.

5 posted on 08/15/2004 10:13:07 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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it's better to fight them there with tanks and planes than here with Firemen and Police!!!
6 posted on 08/15/2004 10:14:07 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Fenris6
Its of little use. I learned from debating these bozos during the Cold War - they are idiots when it comes to foreign policy. Disqualifier: Anyone who can't understand why Iraq was part of the larger War Against Terrorism has no bussiness discussing foreign policy.

Lol, maybe we should unilateraly disarm, that would show 'em! In any case, knowing how muslim extremist feel about foreign christian troops on their soil, this strategy not only is working, but is brilliant.

7 posted on 08/15/2004 10:20:12 AM PDT by JPJones
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To: Malesherbes

"This problem will never be solved until we solve the root causes. The way to solve the root causes is to kill the Jihadists. Bullets in their chests and bullets in their heads takes care of both hearts and minds."

Agreed, only I'd like to take it a step further. We need to destroy the madrasses (sp?), the schools where this stuff is taught. The teachers of this hate must have their offices terminated with extreme prejudice.


8 posted on 08/15/2004 10:30:57 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: Chode
"it's better to fight them there with tanks and planes than here with Firemen and Police!!!"

Absolutely.

Imagine a back yard barbecue. Thousands of uninvited guests getting into the potato salad, swimming in the drinks, biting the guests. Could make the event miserable. What do you do to eliminate the problem? Why, you install a bug zapper. And not over the picnic table. Off over there, in the corner of the yard away from the barbecue. Might be a pain running the electrical over there, but worth the effort. And your neighbors benefit as well with a reduction of pests at their barbecues.

Well, Iraq is the bug zapper. Fighting the WOT over there keeps the jihadists out of our potato salad. I think it was brilliant at many levels and has contributed in a number of ways to the lack of successful attacks here in the U.S. since 9-11. Having our highly trained military fighting them on terms favorable to us is better than having our first responders trying to cope with some devastating attack after it happens.
9 posted on 08/15/2004 10:32:47 AM PDT by calenel (Peace Through Strength, and when necessary, Peace Through Victory!)
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To: quidnunc

I've been using these exact same arguments with my lefty friends and relatives since the start of Iraqi Freedom (remind them of that mission name, BTW), and it seems to at least shut them up if not get them thinking. Maybe I'm luckier than most, in that my lefty relatives aren't stupid, just uninformed and seem to respond to treatment. (Ignorance I can cure. Stupidity is fatal.)



10 posted on 08/15/2004 10:43:47 AM PDT by MNnice
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I agree: brilliant strategy.

But the terrorist cells are already in place here, and their activation is inevitable. More MEs are coming through Mexico everyday. "Something's afoot, Watson."

Remember what the murderous Muslim and his homo-boy - the Beltway Shooters - did to the DC-VA-MD region in '02. Think 50 -60 two or three man teams in major cities... Yikes!


11 posted on 08/15/2004 11:27:53 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Fenris6

it amazes me how many fail to understand and appreciate Iraq's current role as a terrorist-magnet and meat-grinder.

have these dolts never heard of channelizing the enemy into a prepped kill-box?


12 posted on 08/15/2004 12:42:05 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Well, if you have a Concealed weapons permit, USE it!!

If you are allowed to carry a weapon in the state that you live, carry it, if you are not allowed to carry, then MOVE!!!


13 posted on 08/15/2004 12:44:27 PM PDT by Jaguar1942
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To: quidnunc

If you want your grandchild to live in a open society...this so true. I didn't think of that. Who wants to live under marshall law? This will happen if we don't tackle terrorism problem over there.


14 posted on 08/15/2004 12:55:50 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Jaguar1942

I do.

I've had a CCW since '90, and carry daily (Kimber "Eclipse Target II 1911A1 .45cal ACP). I also carry an AR-10 (.308cal) with 10 x 20-round mags in my '02 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo, daily.

My Class III AR-15s and two .50cals are at work in the Cannon dbl-door gun safe.

I'm quite content here in Penna, thankyouverymuch.

Now what is your problem with so many exclamation points?


15 posted on 08/16/2004 2:00:48 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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