Posted on 08/15/2004 9:05:41 AM PDT by BraveMan
I see nothing wrong with a PRIVATE group discriminating on the basis of religion, sex, or any other criteria as far as their membership is concerned. They are private and have the right to preserve their organizational culture by admitting only those who share it.
If a bunch of straights joined a gay group, or a bunch of Gentiles joined a Jewish group, with the viewpoint of taking over the organization and seizing control of organizational assets, for purposes hostile to the original aims of the organizations founders, what would your opinion be?
By that logic, there should also be no taxpayer support for gay groups, womens groups, and no taxpayer support for things like "historically black colleges".
BTTT!
For the record, I think "atheist" children SHOULD be admitted to the Boy Scouts, for their own good ... exposure to the Scouting program in the company of religious adults and youth could help them to grow out of the delusion of atheism.
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is stopping the atheists, agnostics, wiccans (fill in the blank) from forming their own version of scouting. So go do it.
No different than joing the PGA, or NFL, then showing up with baseball bats, batting helmets etc. You join the BSA, and you must play by their rules, not whatever you want to do as a member.
And if you are offended by this, go pout somewhere else.
SemperFi, USMC. 1970-1981
How about the State's taking money from believers to fund anti-religious organizations, or public school curricula that exclude religion entirely.
Perhaps the solution is to exclude the State from all activities except providing police protection, courts, etc.
"On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
And to obey the Scout law.
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake,
and morally straight."
The Canadian version:
On my honour
I promise that I will do my best
To do my duty to God and the Queen
To help other people at all times,
And to carry out the spirit of the Scout Law.
Yes! Suppose some Australian kids joins a Boy Scout of America troop. Wouldn't it be discriminatory to not let him join? Of course it would only be fair that some meetings would be held "down under." If that were not possible, then you have to admit that they should disband the troop rather than force such hardship on the poor kid.
If they're meeting on public property, then you are one violating their rights based on your discrimination against their religion.
What the hell are "special public priveleges" ? Does that have something to do with Gay Pride parades?
The picture the article paints is not complete. Scouts Canada has become a very PC group of idiots, but individual troops do not have to share in the idiocy. The sponsor of a troop has the right to set rules such as restricting membership in the troop to only boys, and to set a moral standard for membership in the troop (both for boys and leaders).
My church sponsors the 78th Ottawa Troop. It's all boys, Scout leaders must be practicing church members, we require them to wear the uniform, and the troop is doing well. It's the non-church sponsored troops that are dropping like flies.
The picture the article paints is not complete. Scouts Canada has become a very PC group of idiots, but individual troops do not have to share in the idiocy. The sponsor of a troop has the right to set rules such as restricting membership in the troop to only boys, and to set a moral standard for membership in the troop (both for boys and leaders).
My church sponsors the 78th Ottawa Troop. It's all boys, Scout leaders must be practicing church members, we require them to wear the uniform, and the troop is doing well. It's the non-church sponsored troops that are dropping like flies.
So what? They can use public property for free for all I care.
I think it is wrong for a private organization like the hospital to pay for illegal alien treatment with my dollars while charging me full price. They pay little attention to my concept of wrong or right. They simply roll their "feel good
concepts" into my health premiums or property tax bill. I am sure it feels good to you to destroy the great organizations for some "feel good" concepts from some attorney somewhere.
Apparently you miss the blaring obvious hipocrisy of your arguement.
What gives you or anyone else the "right' to discriminate against an organization that doesn't conform to your idea of inclusiveness?
Aren't you discriminating?????????
Why shouldn't they be able to use "public" facilities that they also pay taxes for?
Does that mean that if I don't open my house to anyone who wants to come in then I can't use the public roads and other "public" facilities that we all pay taxes for???????
Can I go into any girls locker room or spa because it is illegal to discriminate against me on the basis of gender?
What about stores that discriminate against me on the basis of time? Why can't I go into any store any time of day because to deny me access would be discriminatory against me on whatever basis bothers me?
You are like a person on a patch of ice lighting a fire to stay warm instead of jumping to land.
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