Posted on 08/15/2004 9:05:41 AM PDT by BraveMan
Did I remember the salute right or was my kid just having me on? ;)
Since someone's always going to be dictating morality to me, I'll take my dictated morality from the Creator of the Universe, not from some human being who can't even see the contradictions in his own philosophy.
Looks like one for the list....
I vaguely recollect that salute.
I was a beaver in the '50s. ;^)
Like minorities, illegal aliens, homosexuals, and democrat politicians already get?
No one seemed to mind that BSA got to use public facilities 30 years ago. A meeting room at the local library, a corner of a state park for camping, etc. Now, most any group can do the same thing. Why does it matter that the BSA does it too? Because they have a values-centered philosophy, that's why. I bet if BSA was a gay atheist organization, you would not be so quick to try to impose your 'standards' on them.
Troop 386 bump.
I was just trying to figure if the answer was yes or no"
Like when Kozak asked you:
"So should atheist organizations be forced to accept the religious?"
and you answered:
"Then you, too, are in favor of discriminating against kids based on religion.
Why so sensitive in admitting it?"
Should atheist organizations be forced to accept the religious?
That's your choice, and I respect it. I choose otherwise.
Excellent comments, along with some others on this thread. Amazing how a slight mention of the name of God enrages some people.
It would be nice if organizations like Planned Parenthood and the Southern Poverty Law Center (or whatever it's foul name is) didn't receive taxpayer money... PP get millions of dollars, IIRC, and the Southern etc is all gov't money funded. It is as evil as PP. If I'm wrong I hope someone will correct me.
Then why don't you respect the "choices" of the BSA and their supporters?
According to you life is essentially meaningless. Why don't you drop all your ideals and "values" and live as if it were? The other soulless animals, plants, rocks, etc. do so and get by quite well (they certainly aren't fretting over Jeffersonian doctrines of taxation).
Wait a minute! This isn't Richard Dawkins, is it? ;-)
And atheist youth groups "discriminate" against believers. What's your point?
The majority of people who donate to Scouting are people who do not itemize their taxes. Therefore, they are not tax-free donations. I feel very certain they are not getting your taxes. Your taxes are safely going into the pockets of politicians, grafters, welfare cheats, and other ne'er-do-wells, but rest assured, not to those discriminatory Scouts.
...special public privileges... So, it's okay for the Scouts to pick up the litter in the public park, but God forbid that they should then enjoy a picnic there.
What's really scare is that people who don't believe in G-d still think that right and wrong objectively exists, that they can see it, and that they have the right/duty to impose it on the rest of us, all the while telling us that life is essentially totally meaningless and that rejecting G-d sets us "free."
Did you see the opening ceremonies of the Olympics the other night, where they did the history of Greece and its legacy of rationalistic humanism? You know, the "evolution of man as a rational being" and the alleged nobility of asking "who am I? what is it all about?" even though it theoretically isn't "about" anything?
All the evils of the modern world may be traced back to classical Hellenism.
I may not be a chr*stian, but I certainly agree with Tertullian: "What has Athens to do with Jerusalem?"
So you admit that it's merely a subjective personal hang-up and not somehow objectivey morally wrong? Then you've taken a step forward. Your next step is to stop trying to "convert" other people to sharing your subjective moral hang-up (as if it had any objective ramifications of any kind).
::Sigh:: Why is it that people who ridicule religion claim to be such defenders of religious people from "discrimination?"
Does your outrage extend to public schools that discriminate against Christians but not against moslems?
I'm sure that a local print shop could make them up for you and if you hawked them at a local ball game you'd sell out your supply in short order.
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