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Case Offers Caution on Stomach-Stapling Surgery
NY Times ^ | August 15, 2004 | NA

Posted on 08/14/2004 5:15:17 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: Tax-chick

"How does a 450-pound woman become pregnant?"

Someone offered her candy in return for her favors??


21 posted on 08/14/2004 9:11:15 PM PDT by mean lunch lady (I'm from Flori-duh, Land of the Hanging Chad...)
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To: ChocChipCookie; kenth; DollyCali; areafiftyone; valkyrieanne; kstewskis; Xenalyte; texasflower; ...
Is there really a stomach-stapling ping list??

I don't know, but I'm sending this out to the:


22 posted on 08/14/2004 9:19:03 PM PDT by KangarooJacqui (http://www.RightGoths.com - Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. Got a problem with that?)
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To: Tax-chick

Took the question right outa my head, you did.


23 posted on 08/14/2004 9:24:12 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Swarm of cheerleaders attack, Darksheare pronounced ecstatic at local hospital. Film at 11.)
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To: steplock

She had the surgery 10 months before she got pregnant. This happened 18 months after the surgery, when the fetus was at 8 months.


24 posted on 08/14/2004 9:26:24 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Swarm of cheerleaders attack, Darksheare pronounced ecstatic at local hospital. Film at 11.)
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To: Boundless

I just learned once again about the procedure a bit too close for comfort. A colleague had it back in the mid-1980's. Beautiful lady, who wanted to save her marriage. She was never the same again, with continual health problems thereafter.

Two weeks ago, the 2nd person I ever knew to have the procedure died. Went into the hospital with such confidence and such hope about conquering the weight once and for all. Experienced e-coli, then septicemia, then gangrene. The family had the life support pulled yet death did not occur until two days after that. It must have been so painful.

Please caution anyone you know to get a second and a third opinion. The risk does not seem to be worth it.


25 posted on 08/14/2004 9:38:29 PM PDT by ZOTnot ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."--Hillary)
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To: neverdem

Just one little annoyance: the article keeps referring to the "fetus." That, of course, is the language used to dehumanize babies in order to kill them with less guilt.

Otherwise, very sad situation. There are no easy fixes for a weight problem, but there are too many people who want to take a magic pill, or have a magic surgery to get rid of the weight effortlessly. Losing weight takes work. I know. I once weighed 70 pounds more than I do now.


26 posted on 08/14/2004 9:43:08 PM PDT by exDemMom (Think like a liberal? Oxymoron!)
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Yes, the surgery is risky and there is a concern for complications following. But my opinion is that they people are doing it to try to save their lives.

I wonder how many people have died or suffered debilitating complications as a result of plastic surgery? Liposuction, breast implants, butt imlants, etc.

27 posted on 08/14/2004 10:16:38 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: Kieri

Wow. I'm glad you are your daughter are okay.


28 posted on 08/14/2004 10:50:07 PM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the Rapture, the Bush White House will be unmanned.)
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To: steplock

Didn't bother to read the article did you?


29 posted on 08/14/2004 10:51:41 PM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the Rapture, the Bush White House will be unmanned.)
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To: texasflower
Wow. I'm glad you are your daughter are okay.

Thank you, and we both are! She'll be eleven years old in September.

30 posted on 08/15/2004 8:22:47 AM PDT by Kieri (Who's waiting for the return of her beloved Farscape!)
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To: neverdem
Patients then lose weight because the new pouch holds a few ounces of food at a time, and some calories and nutrients are not absorbed because the food bypasses much of the stomach and small intestine. Patients must take protein and vitamin supplements to avoid malnutrition.

Since the start of 2003, three other Massachusetts patients have died after gastric bypass, and the state is developing guidelines to increase safety.

Wouldn't it be easier for fat people to just exert a little self-discipline (or a lot) and prevent all that pie from entering the pie-hole in the first place?

31 posted on 08/16/2004 2:36:20 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Kerry/Edwards--Celebrity Metrosexual Ticket 2004)
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To: Kieri

I'm curious: what was the cause of your obesity determined to be? I should have read down some before making my previous insensitive remark...


32 posted on 08/16/2004 2:39:11 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Kerry/Edwards--Celebrity Metrosexual Ticket 2004)
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To: neverdem

Bump for later.


33 posted on 08/16/2004 2:42:10 PM PDT by Springman
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To: Kieri

Just one more thing: I am about fifty pounds (my estimate) overweight, but there's no way in heck I would consider having surgery. Hopefully, more exercise and self-discipline will get me squared away...


34 posted on 08/16/2004 2:42:52 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Kerry/Edwards--Celebrity Metrosexual Ticket 2004)
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To: steplock

The sugery was 18 months prior BEFORE she got pregnant.


35 posted on 08/16/2004 2:43:03 PM PDT by CholeraJoe
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I'm curious: what was the cause of your obesity determined to be? I should have read down some before making my previous insensitive remark...

In one word: GENETIC.

I was overweight when I was born and continued to be throughout my entire life, regardless of what I ate or how hard I exercised. My gastric bypass surgeon measures intestinal length when he does the surgery. Normal small intestines are 19-22 feet long. Mine were 40. "You could eat sand and still gain weight," he told me in the recovery room.

The only drawback to finding out that piece of information is that you have to be opened up to find that out!

36 posted on 08/17/2004 7:58:08 AM PDT by Kieri (Who's waiting for the return of her beloved Farscape!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Just one more thing: I am about fifty pounds (my estimate) overweight, but there's no way in heck I would consider having surgery. Hopefully, more exercise and self-discipline will get me squared away...

I wish you nothing but the best. Fifty pounds is manageable though difficult...150 is another matter.

What a lot of people don't realize is that morbid obesity causes excessive wear and tear on your joints including your feet, hips, ankles, knees and especially your lower back. Even though I'm a very comfortable weight today (OK, I wouldn't mind losing another 15-20 pounds, but who wouldn't?), I have chronic bursitis and tendon problems because of the weight. It makes exercise painful and takes a lot of time to get the flareups to calm down. When you're morbidly overweight, excercise is a nightmare.

37 posted on 08/17/2004 8:02:29 AM PDT by Kieri (Who's waiting for the return of her beloved Farscape!)
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To: Kieri
Wow. 40 feet. I hope they decided to remove the extra intestines.

I do apologize for my insensitivity.

38 posted on 08/17/2004 3:32:06 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Kerry/Edwards--Celebrity Metrosexual Ticket 2004)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I do apologize for my insensitivity.

Thank you :-)

Nobody wants to be obese, and once you get to a certain point it becomes more and more difficult to lose weight because of gravity. I know I can't be the only exception to the rule and there are a lot of people who battle the buldge because of genetic factors. I just wish that some so-called medical professionals would realize that the social stigma of being obese is a major stress factor - which makes you want to eat!

39 posted on 08/17/2004 3:46:50 PM PDT by Kieri (Who's waiting for the return of her beloved Farscape!)
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