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Official: Charley's Death Toll to Climb [Stacks Of Bodies at Mobile Home Park]
Yahoo News ^ | 8/14/04 | ALLEN G. BREED,

Posted on 08/14/2004 1:42:49 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: LBelle
RE #376 - Excellent answer.

Captiva Island has not taken a hit like this in decades. These people paid to live a lifetime in paradise with the understanding that there might be a few days of hell and a lot of cleanup at some point. They got 30-40 years of the best life can offer.

Now they pick up, clean up and settle back in paradise again.

381 posted on 08/14/2004 9:36:43 AM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: LBelle
We have areas here on the Texas gulf coast that get wiped out in every storm, then the tax payer have to foot the bill for rebuilding the homes that any fool knows should not have been built in the first place.

These little barrier islands really should not be built up. But if they are then tax money should not be used to rebuild. 6k for windstorm is a great deal. Rebuild will cost tax payer about 250,000k / house.

Happily it looks like the folks living there were smart enough to leave, looking at the map I'd say the island is maybe 5 or 6 feet above sea level.

382 posted on 08/14/2004 9:38:20 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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383 posted on 08/14/2004 9:39:40 AM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: walford
I have every bit of hope that everyone will be alright, but it would seem to me that if a category 4 hurricane is heading toward your trailer.

It jumped two categories in the last half hour prior to landfall and then changed direction. I doubt they had enough time at that point to go anywhere. Living in mobile homes they should have evacuated Thursday when the evac orders went out.

384 posted on 08/14/2004 9:39:51 AM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: jpsb
Captiva island appears to be a small barrer island less then 1/2 mile wide and about 4 or 5 miles long. Why would someone build a house on a little barrer island knowing that huricanes happen all the time?

Because it's absolutely gorgeous there, the weather is nice most of the time, and they haven't had a major hurricane in over 40 years.

385 posted on 08/14/2004 9:48:21 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: LBelle
Why do people live in California, where an earthquake can destroy their homes?

Same as you -- for the weather and ambience. We have weather in the 70s year round here by the Pacific in So Cal. Some 80s in the summer, and some 60s in the winter. In between the earthquakes and fires, it's great. (Actually, we do not live in a fire zone personally, though we do live in a huge terrorist target area...)

G-d bless everyone worried, injured, or without property from this force majeure.

386 posted on 08/14/2004 9:51:47 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: commish
"Now they pick up, clean up and settle back in paradise again."

At tax payer expense. You want to live on a little barrier island? Or on a fault line? Cool, but do it at your own expense, not with tax dollars.

Try to get private insurance, no insurance company will touch you, why? Because, it is crazy to insure a home build on a tiny island in a huricane prone area.

Texas finally put an end to the worst offenders and would bought out hundreds of homes. No more tax payers insurance, sell out or take your chances, most/all sold.

Charlie was nasty, but I have seen far bigger storms that would cut the islands into little pieces, we had a little island about the same size in Galveston Bay, Allica cut it into 3 pieces and slowly the island washed away.

A storm like Allen or Carla would completely wipe out these little islands, nothing left, not even the islands.

387 posted on 08/14/2004 9:57:07 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: jpsb

Captiva Island, along with the entire area down there can be describded as nothing less than paradise. Exquisite beaches, white sands, fantastic weather, gorgeous views and clean beyond belief. It's an area where people not only take pride in how the area looks, they make sure the natural areas are not destroyed anymore by man than necessary.

The same goes from most of the Florida Keys. All it takes is one visit to the area to see why people are willing to chance an act of God taking out their home every 30-40 years to live in paradise.

If I had the money, I'd live there (or the Keys) in a heartbeat.


388 posted on 08/14/2004 9:58:14 AM PDT by Brytani (A changing mind is a terrible thing to waste - Vote John Kerry)
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To: Brytani

Don't the Bushes have a vacation place on one of the little islands in Lee County?


389 posted on 08/14/2004 9:59:22 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Amelia

Yes but I'm not sure exactly which barrier island it's on. So far I've heard nothing out of Jeb Bush about his home etc.


390 posted on 08/14/2004 10:00:58 AM PDT by Brytani (A changing mind is a terrible thing to waste - Vote John Kerry)
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To: Quilla
Thank you! I need rainbows every day:)

That is very similar to the scene from the coastal mountains above Port Hueneme State beach in CA. On and pleasant day you can see two islands from there:)

391 posted on 08/14/2004 10:03:19 AM PDT by BobS
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To: dep

Has Kerry said it is all Bush's fault yet?


392 posted on 08/14/2004 10:08:30 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Amelia
I am sure it is, I read that alot of folks were staying on thier little island homes. That is crazy, lucky Charlie was a tight huricane with mostly in a small tight eye wall, (never saw one like it before) had it been a more normal cat 4 like Carla, everyone on those islands would have been drowned.

My problem is how at times people can be so foolish, building on a little barrier island, staying in a mobil home with a huricane comming, not seeking higher gound from a low lying coastal plain. I just don't get it. My house is 12 feet above sea level, I'll stay for a cat 1 or cat 2, cat 3 I'll think about cat 4 and I am outta here.

393 posted on 08/14/2004 10:10:25 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

I suspect, before the day is out, Kerry or one of his croonies will make some comment that Bush hasn't done enough to help the people of Florida.

Let the games begin.


394 posted on 08/14/2004 10:10:49 AM PDT by Brytani (A changing mind is a terrible thing to waste - Vote John Kerry)
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To: Brytani

The Fla keyes are bigger higher then these little barrier islands are they? Maybe I am wrong, I am thinking the fla barrier islands are just like the little Texas barrier islands which get wiped out and cut to pieces over time.


395 posted on 08/14/2004 10:13:53 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: jpsb

are they=aren't they


396 posted on 08/14/2004 10:15:36 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: kattracks
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Fri., Aug. 13: Candace Gott reacts to loss of her mobile home from Hurricane Charley in North Fort Myers, Fla. "We lost everything" she said.

397 posted on 08/14/2004 10:17:29 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: dixie sass
we have gotten so use to believing the weather man and his predicted paths, that we forget nature does it's own thing and we can't control it.

The storm was well within the predicted path, even if it was at the edge of the prediction. The predicted path is always a wedge, not a line.

398 posted on 08/14/2004 10:17:50 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: jpsb
My problem is how at times people can be so foolish, building on a little barrier island, staying in a mobil home with a huricane comming, not seeking higher gound from a low lying coastal plain. I just don't get it. My house is 12 feet above sea level, I'll stay for a cat 1 or cat 2, cat 3 I'll think about cat 4 and I am outta here.

I'm a bit more leery of them since seeing the damage from Hugo. The bad thing about that one was, most of the damage seemed to have been from tornados, not the hurricane itself.

399 posted on 08/14/2004 10:18:34 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: kattracks

50 miles isn't "much further north."


400 posted on 08/14/2004 10:23:01 AM PDT by Strategerist
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