Al Sadr: "It's just a flesh wound!"
Posted on 08/13/2004 7:32:38 AM PDT by saquin
NAJAF, Iraq (AFP) - Shiite Muslim rebel leader Moqtada Sadr issued a list of conditions for an end to more than a week of deadly clashes between his militia and US troops and Iraqi forces, a spokesmen said.
The conditions were spelled out at a news conference at a hotel in the besieged holy city of Najaf by Sheikh Ali Sumeisim.
If all multinational forces, Iraqi police and soldiers leave Najaf and the Marjayia, or religious authority, agrees to take responsibility for the city, "the Mehdi Army would pull out from Najaf," Sumeisim said.
All basic services must be restored, Sadr's Mehdi Army recognised as an ideological movement and its members allowed to carry weapons for self-defence, Sumeisim continued.
Those jailed for supporting the resistance, all imprisoned clerics and women must also be released from prison, the spokesman added.
They'd all be dead. On to the next problem.
Only Negotiation Is Time and Place of SURRENDER.
Nuff Said.
You know in wriggly they cheer there favorite players when they come up to bat, You hear Alouuuuuuuuu all the time, and now you hear No-marrrrrrrrr.
Of course they are really cheering sammi now, I just didn't know his last name was "BOO".
I know a long way to get to that line.
I don't remember the exact verse so let me paraphrase. If it comes to a point where victory is no longer possible make treaty until such time as you can become strong enough to win. Lying for momentary peace is preferred to death.
The get tough policy of "leveling" the mosques won't work because it will inflame the Islamic world and lead to the secession of the south and thus civil war. The half-way policy of "fine tuning" via negotiation and balancing acts will fail but for other reasons. It fails because it only serves to draw us deep into the deeper into the Middle Eastern world of intrigue and byzantine twists and turns. Do you think that American politicians and state department whiz kids can master and thrive in this word? I don't
What then is the solution? The solution is to never get into these nation building crusades in the first place. Now, that we are in....let's make the best of it by declaring victory, turning the keys over the Alawi and getting out.
Thanks for your input. Here's a cookie.
That's a neat childlike worldview.
As a conservative historian, perhaps you can point to a major battle in history in which the defeated forces were not given a final opporunity to surrender once they were surrounded.
America should level any structure that these terrorists
have defiled by firing at Americans from.
Well said. Every minute that al Sadr continues to live, the situation there turns against us. The Iraqi goverment, with our support, must make an example out of this thug. The consequences of not doing so grow greater by the miniute.
And then what? What do you intend to do when Allawi's government collapses after that and the mosque is leveled and the Shi'ite areas secede?
You surrender or die.
LOL. Your quite the card, aren't you? Do you have a fact-based argument you'd like to try?
Death of the runt Sadr will increase Allawi's governments strength.
"I don't remember the exact verse so let me paraphrase. If it comes to a point where victory is no longer possible make treaty until such time as you can become strong enough to win. Lying for momentary peace is preferred to death."
Well, I guess Sadr has stopped pumping out motars from the holy shrine for now until he gets resupplied.
Smoking? Perhaps you need to re-read what I said. I said nothing about the death of Sadr only the consequences of leveling the mosque.....which dollars to donuts would lead to the collapse of the Allawi government.
HAH. We have him right where he wants us!
We failed in Vietnam because we didn't take the fight to the enemy nation.
For a million political, economic, and military reasons that was never an option.
And Christian soldiers demolishing the holiest Shiite shrine will increase the Allawi government's strength ?
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