Where Kerry was on Christmas day in '68 matters to November '04

New York Daily News ^ | 8-12-2004 | ZEV CHAFETS

[johnny7]

Pat Buchanan has also picked up on Kerry's 'Apocalypse Now' re-creation. This is starting to germinate.

Red blooded Americans will never vote for a turd who blatantly romanticizes and in some cases, fabricates military heroics.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Does anyone have the link where Kerry's friend John McCain says the Vietcong used Skerry's words and deeds to lower morale of the prisoners of war?

[tkathy]

Kerry's band of naive dupes must tell what happened, hopefully separately. The Christman story just may be the story that discredits them. Santa suits with long long noses would be nice.

[reegs]

Now Kerry's trying to spin the Christmas timeline into January. This leads me to two questions:

1. Was the event seared or not seared into his memory?
2. Why would the allies be drunk and shooting at him celebrating Christmas in January?

[OldFriend]

How is it that the New York Daily News is finding itself telling the truth.

[Fenris6]

"soldiers in the heat of battle make poor witnesses"

What does the writer base this on? I still remember combat encounters in Somolia very vividly. Time *slows* into freeze frames.

Also note that Kerry was *not* in the heat of battle when he fished the man out of the water. Swift boat vets confirm that enemy action had ceased when Kerry's boat returned to the scene.

[exhaustedmomma]

From History News Network:
Today, many American veterans and their families deem Kerry's past public excoriation of U.S. troops as unforgivable acts bordering on treason. As a result, veterans have formed several groups opposing Kerry's presidential ambitions. The root cause of their anti-Kerry sentiment is summarized by the publication U.S. Veteran Dispatch , which notes that Kerry's aforementioned testimony “occurred while some of his fellow Vietnam veterans were known by the world to be enduring terrible suffering as prisoners of war in North Vietnamese prisons.” Indeed, Senator John McCain has stated that his North Vietnamese captors had used reports of Kerry-led protests to taunt him and his fellow prisoners. Retired General George S. Patton III angrily charged that Kerry's actions were giving “aid and comfort to the enemy.”

Also, link of interest: POW against kerry

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Think you

[knuthom]

Now Kerry's trying to spin the Christmas timeline into January

They are probably frantically trying to find a day in January when Kerry's whereabouts are not accounted for so they can plug Cambodia into the gap.

[Aetius]

The thing about the 'brilliant' Edwards' 'great' speech is that in saying that the country and soldiers deserve a commander-in-chief who knows what they are going through and who has been there, the guy not only disqualifies President Bush, but also himself, who correct me if I'm wrong was arguing a few months ago that he would be a better President than Kerry. It would also disqualify anyone who didn't serve, like Hillary, and Barack Obama, and .......

[johnny7]

Kerry's band of naive dupes must tell what happened, hopefully separately.

Yup! Reminds me of the movie 'Mississippi Burning'. I liked the way Gene Hackman singled out the weak-link in the 'band of dimwits'.

Somebody's lying here people... yessa' someone is slingin' the shit pretttty heavy!

[Wil H]

Why would the allies be drunk and shooting at him celebrating Christmas in January?

Why would they be celebrating Christmas at any time? - they are predominately Buddhists or Taoists

[airstrike]

Just change the name of the movie to Apocalypse Now And Then

[Ann Archy]

get real....Clinton was voted in TWICE! The Liberal American people have lost their souls....they DESPISE Christians and goodness and TRUTH.

[Toespi]

It should matter. Kerry promoted the "Christmas in Cambodia" to subert his own government. This should be the issue to all Americans.

[Aunt Polgara]

Actually, there were a lot of Catholics in Vietnam. Many of them now belong to my parish here in S. Calif. where we celebrate a Mass in Vietnamese each Sunday.

[johnny7]

Oh I'm quite real. Notice that I said “Red-blooded Americans”.

I realize that I speak of a minority... but this minority has been known to swing elections.

GET IT? OK NOW?

[anoldafvet]

I don't know what the problem is here, why doesn't the Pentagon just release all of Kerry's records, after all, Ken Bacon did that with Linda Tripp's records and it didn't seem to bother anyone, especially the media (/sarcasm off)

[upchuck]

Am I arrogant enough to think I can give good, solid advice to sKerry? You betcha! And most of my fellow FReepers could as well. So, here goes:

Senator sKerry, if you have any genuine military records showing you were in Cambodia at all, let alone Christmas, 1968, now would be a good time to be showing them to us. If not, well, you be in a heap o' trouble son. Maybe you've caught the Goreon disease.

[Christian4Bush]

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