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To: balrog666; CherylBower

Stuff that costs $1.00 now, includes about $.10 in taxes in the price. The final cost of the product with a 30% sales tax would be $1.17.

Actually, stuff that costs now include more 20-25% in taxes and associated costs of tax compliance which would go away with repeal of the those taxes all up and down the chain of production from raw materials through manufacture & final sales.

Thus the final total cost of a product with a 30% sales tax added would be between $0.97 and $1.04

Considering that one receives thier full gross pay (no witholding or SS/FICA) that becomes a strong net plus to the average person.

I refer you to the section of the following article about the Income/Payroll tax system and its impact on our economy "A. Hidden Upstream Taxes. " paragraph 39.

"[39] Dr. Dale Jorgenson, Chairman of Harvard University's Economics Department, believes that the price of goods and services are inflated by about 20 percent or more by upstream taxes consumers ultimately bear. In a recent paper Dr. Jorgenson estimated the built-in taxes contained in the price of goods and services. /22/ In the chart above, he quantified the hidden component of tax, estimating that producer prices would fall on repeal of upstream taxes an average of about 22 percent."

Looking at the accompanying chart, the range of values from industry to industry appears to be about 12-25%.

Economists Gary and Aldonna Robbins of the Texas-based Institute for Public Policy examined the case of dry cleaning a shirt, with a particular eye toward uncovering the hidden costs of taxes in price.

The Robbin's attributed over 33.6% of "consumer prices" to be due to federal taxation passed on to the customer.

The Federal Tax System
http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=2125&sequence=0&from=1#pt1

From the Table 1 we may extract the proportionate contributions of each sector of taxes as they contribute to consumer price for the year 2000.

Those tax components which will not change prices as a consequence of enactment of HR2525

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Adjust for the approximate reduction of interest & cost of tax compliance (

Adjust for a conservative $800 billion cost of tax compliance, (The Flat Tax; Hall & Rabushka, '95,What the Income Tax Costs the American People: quoting James L. Payne estimates 65cents for each dollar of revenue collected).

Estimated change in consumption prices as consequence of enactment of a National Retail Sales Tax, repealing all business income and payroll taxes:

33.6*(1386.5/1945) = 23.9% reduction in consumption prices

Which more than verifies the Jorgenson empirical study of 22% fall in producer prices.

The two sources are in reasonable agreement, and I see 20-25% a reasonable value to expect retail prices to fall, not only for customers here in the United States, but in our exports as well making them far more competitive on international markets.

60 posted on 08/13/2004 7:45:49 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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To: ancient_geezer
Actually, stuff that costs now include more 20-25% in taxes and associated costs of tax compliance which would go away with repeal of the those taxes all up and down the chain of production from raw materials through manufacture & final sales.

Nonsense. The cost reduction and compliance savings is the key to all the arguments for the NRST and it is total nonsense based on one study by one economist. Do you want to bet the entire US economy one man's guess?

Also, you need to consider that, in general, supply chains are shorter now than they have ever been and, for NRST purposes, they terminate at the border. SO, some magical cascade of cost savings is simply not going to occur if the NRST passes.

61 posted on 08/13/2004 8:04:42 AM PDT by balrog666 (A public service post.)
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