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To: ellery
"But with infertile couples, by definition procreation is separated from the conjugal act. That's how they know they're infertile."

That is not accurate at all. Someone infertile, through no fault of their own, is not intentionally separating love and sex. It is pathology beyond their control.

"As for reproductive technology, where do you draw the line? If I take medication to help me ovulate, I am relying on technology to help get me pregnant. Is that wrong too?"

Medicine that helps to correct a pathology would be licit as long as it does not pervert the intended nature of the conjugal act. That is separating love and sex.

"Finally, the creation of life cannot happen without God. Anyone who thinks otherwise is giving human doctors 'way too much credit."

God is the creator and married couples are to be pro-creators. IVF and the like allow humans to usurp God and create life outside the intended way. That is playing God.
160 posted on 08/11/2004 12:12:10 PM PDT by johnb2004
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To: johnb2004
That is not accurate at all. Someone infertile, through no fault of their own, is not intentionally separating love and sex. It is pathology beyond their control.

Yes, I know -- my husband and I are suffering with infertility. It is not our intent that procreation be separate from the conjugal act -- but it is the reality.

We have not yet done IVF; I don't know if we will. I am taking fertility drugs. And I can tell you that with doctors involved in our intimate life, it is not the "normal" way of things. Doctors track when it's time via ultrasound and bloodtests, and give us our instructions. I guarantee you that under these circumstances, it is much more like a laboratory than a conjugal act. But like most people who pursue infertility treatments -- IVF or otherwise -- we are going through this horrible, clinical process because of our strong love for each other, our strong marriage and our yearning to have children together.

Some might say that we are trying to thwart God by turning to medical help; but that is the same as saying people seeking help for cancer, or heart disease are trying to thwart Him. We're supposed to turn to Him, but also to work, and to help ourselves -- and we are doing all of the above. If the Lord doesn't want us to have biological children, there is no way that someone in a lab coat is going to be able to make it happen.

164 posted on 08/11/2004 2:38:43 PM PDT by ellery (Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. - Ronald Reagan)
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