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To: Mike Bates
...Senators were expected to represent their states.

I understand the point, but what state interests does a Senator have to represent other than the interests of the state's electorate?

If senatorial candidate John Smith receives a majority of votes promising to represent the interests of the electorate in a particular way in matters x, y, and z, and he does so, what interests of the State is he not representing by carrying out the will of the electorate?

As George Mason University law professor Todd Zywicki has noted, prior to the 17th amendment, senators resisted delegating power to Washington in order to keep it at the state and local level.

Why would the direct election of senators contribute to a senator's delagating power to Washington over keeping power at the state and local level? I don't see a causal connection there.
15 posted on 08/11/2004 7:47:16 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: BikerNYC; Mike Bates; TigersEye
I understand the point, but what state interests does a Senator have to represent other than the interests of the state's electorate?

I'll give you an example: the two U.S. Senators supposedly from Michigan, really are from Detroit and its immediate suburbs. The rest of the State is not represented - Michigan as a whole, is not merely Detroit.

By mandating popular election of Senators, the power of the urban areas made a dramatic jump. By returning to a state legislature election, the outstate interests might just get a hearing.

35 posted on 08/11/2004 1:21:49 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: BikerNYC
If senatorial candidate John Smith receives a majority of votes promising to represent the interests of the electorate in a particular way in matters x, y, and z, and he does so, what interests of the State is he not representing by carrying out the will of the electorate?

It's been awhile (perhaps too long) since I read the Federalist Papers, but one of the notions underlying the system of government was that as long as different factions were fighting with each other to maintain their own powers, liberty would be safe. The danger would be if any particular faction was too successful in concentrating power unto itself.

If you were a state legislator, would you support a Senator who threatened to withhold highway funds from states that didn't impose a 0.08 BAC level? Or would you see such a move as a threat to your own personal power, even if your state happened to have a BAC of 0.08 already?

One of the major principles of federalism is that different people in different places get to live under different laws. If 67% of the people in 67% of the states want to live under a certain law, but only 33% of the people in the other states wants to, should everyone have to live under that law?

As I've drawn up the numbers, 56% of the people want such a law. So imposing it nationwide would make 56% of the people happy. On the other hand, if the law were imposed only in those states that wanted it, 67% of the people would be happy. So which is a better solution?

If people elect Senators directly, it's likely that 67% of the Senators will support imposing the law nationwide. If legislators elect Senators, however, it's much more likely that the legislators in states where such a law is desired would impose the law themselves and not pressure their Senator to do so. After all, they've given their people what they want without involving the Senate, and thus avoid giving away any power they don't have to.

42 posted on 08/11/2004 7:07:31 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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