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1 posted on 08/10/2004 4:56:52 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

More and more I feel that as each day goes by the moves on the chessboard are becoming more apparent.

Reminds me of Independence Day... What happens with the squence runs out? Checkmate.. the question is.. are we the new Big Blue or the old one?


186 posted on 08/10/2004 7:29:58 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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Why would a move to "provide security assurances" against a nuclear attack on Iran not be a constructive move?

Nuking Iran without like provocation is obviously something that would never be considered anyway, so why not?

Not providing such assurances is tantamount to promising a nuclear first strike on Iran, that's also obvious..

Sounds fair. And if it will lessen their paranoia, it should be done. There's absolutely no loss in it.


188 posted on 08/10/2004 7:36:21 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice, Comitas, Firmitas, Gravitas, Humanitas, Industria..)
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Telegraph appears to have pulled the article?!!?!?


190 posted on 08/10/2004 7:40:24 PM PDT by PianoMan (And now back to practicing)
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Lets see...any guess's where Irans Airforce will runaway too when Butt Kicking Time nears?
I'm thinking they won't risk going to Turkey..all those nasty rumors of what happens in Turkish Prisons : )

No one likes them on the other side of the Gulf.

Looks like Khazakstan gets an airforce overnight...or...lots of pots and pans : )

192 posted on 08/10/2004 7:46:04 PM PDT by Light Speed
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Another example of John F* Kerry story telling:

Kerry falsifies NH woman's story

195 posted on 08/10/2004 7:52:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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"Iran has issued an extraordinary list of demands to Britain and other European countries, telling them to provide advanced nuclear technology, conventional weapons and a security guarantee against nuclear attack by Israel."

Did Hillary send copies of the FBI files to Iran to use as leverage for these demands?


202 posted on 08/10/2004 8:24:07 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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1 Lb large Portabella mushrooms
lemon juice
5 Tbsn butter
1 small onion (minced)
4 cloves garlic (crushed)
1/4 Lb lean ground pork
salt
ground pepper
3 TBsp bread crumb
1 TBsp Spanish brandy (or Cognac) - or something
1 1/2 TBsp minced parsely
1 1/2 TBsp chopped pine nuts (almonds or something too)

Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.

Clean 'shrooms. Remove and finely chop stems. Sprinkle 'shroom caps w/lemon juice.

Melt 4 TBsp in medium skillet and saute onion and garlic until wilted. Add meat and cook - sprinkling with salt and pepper - until it loses its color. Add chopped 'shroom stems and cook for an additional 180 seconds. Turn off heat.

Stir in bread crumbs, brandy (or whatever), pine nuts (or whatever), more salt and pepper if required.

Pile mixture into 'shroom caps and dot with butter. Slam into oven for 900 seconds.

Eat as an appetizer, or along side different things.


204 posted on 08/10/2004 8:33:38 PM PDT by raygun
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Iran is now trying to blackmail Briain??


205 posted on 08/10/2004 8:34:13 PM PDT by GeronL (geocities.com/geronl is back, or will be)
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Iran has issued an extraordinary list of demands to Britain and other European countries, telling them to provide advanced nuclear technology, conventional weapons and a security guarantee against nuclear attack by Israel.

So? What does Iran offer to the bargan, besides payment?

214 posted on 08/10/2004 9:18:23 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To Iran: Surrender now or one city will be vaporized every 12 hours. Starting NOW. {note to china...don't even think about it or we'll do all of yours at once}


221 posted on 08/10/2004 9:41:02 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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The victory in Poland, which was won exclusively by German troops, prompted me to address yet another peace offer to the Western powers [Britain and France]. It was rejected, due to the efforts of the international and Jewish warmongers.

The words of Adolf Hitler, in his 'Barbarossa' Proclamation.

225 posted on 08/10/2004 10:52:58 PM PDT by risk
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Provide them with advanced nuclear technology? I thought they'd never ask!

5
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Nuclear technology on the way.
Enjoy.


227 posted on 08/11/2004 2:12:28 AM PDT by milemark (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: Clive; StriperSniper; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; ...
Iranian defence minister says Iran will test missile ["not only in range"]

President Announces New Measures to Counter the Threat of WMD February 11, 2004

PRESIDENT BUSH:

To Iraq's east, the government of Iran is unwilling to abandon a uranium enrichment program capable of producing material for nuclear weapons. The United States is working with our allies and the International Atomic Energy Agency to ensure that Iran meets its commitments and does not develop nuclear weapons.................snip

So today, as a fourth step, I propose a way to close the loophole. The world must create a safe, orderly system to field civilian nuclear plants without adding to the danger of weapons proliferation. The world's leading nuclear exporters should ensure that states have reliable access at reasonable cost to fuel for civilian reactors, so long as those states renounce enrichment and reprocessing. Enrichment and reprocessing are not necessary for nations seeking to harness nuclear energy for peaceful purposes.

The 40 nations of the Nuclear Suppliers Group should refuse to sell enrichment and reprocessing equipment and technologies to any state that does not already possess full-scale, functioning enrichment and reprocessing plants. This step will prevent new states from developing the means to produce fissile material for nuclear bombs. Proliferators must not be allowed to cynically manipulate the NPT to acquire the material and infrastructure necessary for manufacturing illegal weapons.


231 posted on 08/11/2004 4:10:33 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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Mullahs know EU 3 will take their pants off and defecate on orders.


236 posted on 08/11/2004 5:42:20 AM PDT by JudgemAll
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I certainly hope Blair told them, in his British accent, to 'piss off.'

Seriously, this is disturbing. Iran needs to be next on the list.


242 posted on 08/11/2004 8:35:26 AM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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The current greater fear is to Russia. If the Iranians get Nukes, they could pass some on to the Chechens. Russia's assets in the East would be imperiled. The Iranians, who influence western Afganistan (Herat) would be able to extend that influence. The languages are compatible, Dari, Pastun and Farsi. They would be also be able to increase their pressure towards the Kurdish area to the West as well as the Caspian to the North, possible reconstituting the ancient Medo-Persian and Bactrian Empires initially.


245 posted on 08/11/2004 9:36:39 AM PDT by Prost1 (Only muslims should have dhimmi status!)
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Hmmmm.

What will the Euro-Weenies do now???

Apparently the Iranian Ayatollahs have taken their measure of Europe and concluded that having weapons means nothing if you aren't man enough to employ them.


258 posted on 08/11/2004 12:21:33 PM PDT by ZULU
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Iranian BUMP here!


270 posted on 08/11/2004 10:46:24 PM PDT by Khashayar
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Yesterday the Iranians test-fired the latest version of their Shabab ballistic missile.

"TEHRAN, Iran (Reuters) -- Iran says it has carried out a successful field test of the latest version of its Shahab-3 medium-range ballistic missile, which defense experts say can reach Israel or U.S. bases in the Gulf."

273 posted on 08/12/2004 3:40:09 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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