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OKAY OKAY OKAY...WHOA there cowboys..time to put the six shooters back where they belong..and get back to the range

lets get some perspective....

we have our disagreements and horrors in christanity...some awful..some terrible..BUT HTIS IS THE 21 CENTURY

i dont see tens of thousands of catholis beheading and raping protestants or tens of thousands of protestants beheading and raping catholics...today

3. every religion (yes Havoc, yes Soothing) have there disgraceful moments.

Why dont we look at the here and now and to calm your nerves i will recite a poem (jeeze anythign but a poem) from Pastor Neimuller-- (i think thats his name...oh MY GAWD, is that a catholic quoting a protestant...RUN TO THE HILLS!) . HE was murdered under the nazis

first they came for the jews
i am not a jew so i said nothing

then they came for the communists
i am not a communist , so i said nothing

then the came for the socialists
i am not a socialist, so i said nothing

then the came for ME,
and no was left to speak out

NOw unless ye are all MORONS (i know you are not cos you are here!) please see the message...

time to wake up my friends, whatever religion you are, what is going on in DHARFUR is genocide..it just so happens to be a catholic one (today)..do you honestly think they care what brand of christanity you are when they are raping your wife/mother/sister, butchering your children and beheading the men?

the catholic /protestant thing -- this is the usual he said/she said/in 1400 they said crap. For gods sake...let it go and move on...

I am catholic and if the pope says something i dont agree with, i make a decision not to follow..its the benefit of a good upbringing and a brain. Havoc you have one, soothing you have one...time to start directing your brains on solving the problem...

the problem with a bad past is you have a bad past. Both religions have it. Nothing on this earth will change that-- except YOU deciding to change. what you can do is learn whats right and wrong and leave whatever prejudice you have and realise running protestants out of town with shotguns is OBVIOUSLY wrong and asking people here to answer for it is equally WRONG. we have 2000 years of history to pick and choose from..go pick the atrocity of your choice and i am sure you find an equal/worse one the opposite way...

didnt the bible say something about find and fix faults with yourself before you find it in others?

i am sure if your are sitting in the middle of a burnt village in Dharfur, they are looking for your help...protestant/catholc/jew/whatever -- i dont imagine they are too worried where it will come from..

Excuse me, sir, but see post 50. The goings on in Southamerica are recent - not from a few hundred years ago..
And it still goes on today as we speak. And Roman Catholics not only believe it is Rome's right to murder whomever they deam to be a heretic, they look upon any christian who doesn't bow to Rome as a heretic. Now, you tell me the difference. Rome calls Christians Heretics and has dogmatically pronounced death to them in church law and dogma. Islam calls Christians infidels and they do the same. But today, Islam is actually mixing action with belief and committing murder. Rome is just threatening it and running people off their own lands. So, Rome terrorizes people, etc; but, ain't killing anyone today that we know of. So a terrorist that only threatens is your kind of buddy.. is that the way we are to take it?

Rome could solve a lot of that nonsense; but, will not because Rome believes it's own press. I choose my friends wisely and have open eyes. I keep union in faith with catholics who embrace Christianity and not with those who embrace a form of it so saturated in men's traditions that they make God's word Voide with them. Christ said he who takes up the sword will die by it. Rome cursed Martin Luther for saying that murdering people in God's name was against the holy Spirit. If that mindset were not present among Romanists today, I'd say you have some valid point on this topic.

I understand you're attempting damage control. But I'd recommend damage control might be fixing problems with Rome rather than telling us to get the beam out of our eye. I'm not a protestant. I'm a Christian. I've had nothing to do with the crap of the past and want nothing to do with it. And while it's unfortunate, I'm not focusing on issues of the past - I'm specifically noting issues of the PRESENT.

If Rome wants to play victim, she'll need to do it before a deaf and blind audience in my case. I'll be convinced when the little boy stops crying wolf, changes his laws and stops abusing his neighbors. And that is non-negotiable.
I still love my Catholic Brothers and will continue trying to keep dialogue with them to the extent they feel they can let me do so as a heretic who must be hollared down as a bigot to save face when they look bad on any given subject; but,... There it is.