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To: ConservativeBamaFan
"Oh, I thought Congress voted to approve the use of force. I must've been mistaken."

It was not a formal declaration of war as required by the Constitution. Perhaps you've heard of it.

" I didn't know all of them were terrorists. Can you imagine the lawsuits?"

Firstly they have no standing to sue. A visa is an "invitation" to visit the U.S.--for a limited time. It can be revoked at the pleasure of the President anytime. The logic of revoking visas for citizens of known terror-supporting states on 9/12/2001 was--and is--that we don't have time to check them individually. Individual deep background checks should be reserved for "naturalized citizens" originating in terror-supporting states.

"No, he mobilized the military, you know those guys with tanks"

Which are notoriously ineffective in targeting individual guys with rags on their heads. We should have sub-contracted the job to the Mossad; they know what they are doing.

Interestingly, your post was silent on the fact that we are still issuing visas to citizens of terror-supporting states and still training pilots from those nations. All I can say is may God have mercy on us--because we refuse to take necessary and prudent steps to protect ourselves.

--Boris

46 posted on 08/10/2004 6:23:57 AM PDT by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a Leftist with a word processor)
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To: boris
"Oh, I thought Congress voted to approve the use of force. I must've been mistaken."

It was not a formal declaration of war as required by the Constitution. Perhaps you've heard of it.

Now that is true sarcasm!

We haven't had a formal declaration since WW2. Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Gulf War One, Bosnia, Gulf War 2 . . . at this rate, I don't think we will ever get another one.

" I didn't know all of them were terrorists. Can you imagine the lawsuits?"

Firstly they have no standing to sue. A visa is an "invitation" to visit the U.S.--for a limited time. It can be revoked at the pleasure of the President anytime. The logic of revoking visas for citizens of known terror-supporting states on 9/12/2001 was--and is--that we don't have time to check them individually. Individual deep background checks should be reserved for "naturalized citizens" originating in terror-supporting states.

How many visas are we talking here? What would the impact be of sending thousands of people packing? It sounds like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. What would keep terrorists from simply going to another non-terror state, and immigrating from there? What about tourist visas? Work visas? It would require a whole other branch of government to do a decent background check.

Just because they can't sue, doesn't mean John Edwards won't be filing the suits, either. For Pete's sake, they're trying to give illegal aliens the right to vote!

"No, he mobilized the military, you know those guys with tanks"

Which are notoriously ineffective in targeting individual guys with rags on their heads. We should have sub-contracted the job to the Mossad; they know what they are doing.

Can you contract out the Moussad? Interestingly, those "ineffective" guys with the tanks have liberated two countries, destroyed the Taliban, put bin Laden on the run, destroyed a brutal regime, liberated 25,000,000 people, and captured an estimated 75% of al Qaeda's leaders.

Interestingly, your post was silent on the fact that we are still issuing visas to citizens of terror-supporting states and still training pilots from those nations. All I can say is may God have mercy on us--because we refuse to take necessary and prudent steps to protect ourselves.

I agree with you that we need to be more diligent in issuing visas. I'll go a step further -- I think we need to seal our borders and use the military to do it. Only legal entry should be allowed.

There are risks in life, and you cannot eliminate or even reduce all of them.

47 posted on 08/10/2004 3:28:09 PM PDT by ConservativeBamaFan (We know too much, and are convinced of too little. --T.S. Elliot)
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