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A Marine faces fallout from Arab film
LA Times (via Boston.com) ^ | 8/8/04 | Mark Mazzetti

Posted on 08/08/2004 5:58:37 AM PDT by Callahan

For most of the central figures in the Arab-produced documentary film "Control Room," the grisly images that emerged from the US invasion of Iraq last year were no cause for a change of opinion. Jehane Noujaim, the producer, gives an inside look at the war through the eyes and lenses of Al Jazeera's journalists, based at US Central Command headquarters in Doha, Qatar. And over the length of her film, the chasm only widens between US military officials who speak about the "liberation" of Iraq and the Al Jazeera reporters skeptical of the invasion. The exception is a Marine lieutenant named Josh Rushing. Rushing, who was a Central Command spokesman assigned to escort the documentary makers during their time in Qatar, is among the film's most sympathetic characters. He is portrayed as a thoughtful young man moved over time by the grim reality of war. At no point is he shown doubting the justness of the US effort in Iraq, yet the film documents a friendship between Rushing and an Al Jazeera reporter, Hassan Ibrahim. There are also moments on camera when Rushing is wrestling with the film's central themes: war, bias and the Arab world's strongest media outlet. The Marine's role in the film turned him into a minor celebrity among those who saw the film. But the candid comments he made in the documentary and in interviews after its release ran afoul of his superiors in the Marine Corps, which he now reportedly plans to leave.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: controlroom; marine
I don't have a problem with what this marine said.
1 posted on 08/08/2004 5:58:37 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan
I don't have a problem with what this marine said.

Then you didn't comprehend the problem.

2 posted on 08/08/2004 6:00:50 AM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: Callahan

I am sure this marine was thoroughly briefed about what he is supposed to say or could and could not say when dealing with these people, obviously he went over the line. Your free speech is limited once you sign that paper making you an American fighting man, our asses are uncles and what you say is considered policy.


3 posted on 08/08/2004 6:09:49 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Callahan
Rushing, who was a Central Command spokesman assigned to escort the documentary makers during their time in Qatar, is among the film's most sympathetic characters.

People don't understand what a complex organization Al Jazeera is," the article quotes Rushing as saying. "They say it's all Islamists, or Ba'athists, or Arab nationalists. You have all that, but you have really progressive voices too. Al Jazeera shows it all. It turns your stomach, and you remember there's something wrong with war."

Al Jazeera is a most vehement anti American pro Muslim pro terrorist propaganda machine...has been since the get....this Marine Officer....did the pooch in...as did his wife.....after 15 yrs as an enlisted he should have known better....

There is a war going on...it is FAR far from over

Al Jazerra is our enemy

His job was to be a USMC guard dog.. not roll over to get his belly scratched...

imo

4 posted on 08/08/2004 6:11:54 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: boomop1

"I am sure this marine was thoroughly briefed about what he is supposed to say or could and could not say"

You are making assumptions about what he was told. The article does not state what policy he broke besides being friends with an Al Jezzera reporter.


5 posted on 08/08/2004 6:14:39 AM PDT by jbstrick (War is not fought for peace. War is fought for victory.)
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To: Callahan

He was an escort, nothing more. How did he allow himself to be filmed saying anything? Doesn't he know the term "no comment" if the cameras are running? His judgement certainly must come into question.


6 posted on 08/08/2004 6:20:41 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: jbstrick

Apparently, you have not been in the military. Chain of command, Code of Conduct, UCMJ and other things you would not be aware of.


7 posted on 08/08/2004 6:26:30 AM PDT by DH
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To: jbstrick

Read the article again. He stuck his finger in the socket with his comments after the documentary was released.
I hope we aren't look at the John Kerry of the Iraq war.
The Corp may have assumed that a Marine officer with fourteen years experience wouldn't be stupid enough to talk on camera when he was acting as an escort.


8 posted on 08/08/2004 6:27:01 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: Callahan
"I don't have a problem with what this marine said."

Then you need to take a further look.

EXCERPT:

" ... For their part, Marine officials said their problem was not with what Rushing said in the film, but with comments he made after the film was released and received international attention. Some suggested that he did not understand his role as an officer."

"He did a few interviews that indicated he might not know what his lane is," said Lieutenant Colonel Stephen Kay, deputy director of Marine Corps public affairs at the Pentagon. "He was way too far in the opinion realm."

"One of the articles Kay cited appeared in the Village Voice in May. "People don't understand what a complex organization Al Jazeera is," the article quotes Rushing as saying. "They say it's all Islamists, or Ba'athists, or Arab nationalists. You have all that, but you have really progressive voices too. Al Jazeera shows it all. It turns your stomach, and you remember there's something wrong with war."

A minor Marine officer follows established guidlines. He does not make policy or give statements that are not cleared with command. He represents the United States Marines, not Rushing.



Further, and with all due respects, it is not whether you have a problem. It is whether the United States Marines Corps has a problem.

JMHO

9 posted on 08/08/2004 6:31:38 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Callahan
On the surface most won't, but you have to have an understanding of what his job is as Public Affairs Officer (PAO) does. In a nutshell, he is a liaison between the military and the press, delivering statements and handling requests and also advising commanders and Marines on WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT SAY TO THE PRESS (he needs to be adept at how the whole "spin"thing works). He should be a Joe Friday (simply the facts) for the most part IMO.

What he did was start questioning war (normal) but did it in front of a camera, which can be interpreted as questioning POTUS, which as a PAO, he should have known better. Unfortunately, he was looking at retirement in 5 years and he will never see that because he let personal ideals get in the way of professional duties.
10 posted on 08/08/2004 7:16:26 AM PDT by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: joesnuffy
Al Jazerra is our enemy

Yet there are those even on FR who would protect Al-Jezerra's broadcasting of beheadings as free speech.

11 posted on 08/08/2004 7:35:14 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: DH

"Apparently, you have not been in the military. Chain of command, Code of Conduct, UCMJ and other things you would not be aware of."

My father was the commander if the 137TAW. I think I know a little about the chain of command and the UCMJ.

All I am saying let us wait for ALL of the facts before jumping to conclusions.


12 posted on 08/08/2004 10:38:40 AM PDT by jbstrick (War is not fought for peace. War is fought for victory.)
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To: jbstrick
The article does not state what policy he broke besides being friends with an Al Jezzera reporter.
Well, I suspect that readers are expected to have a modicum of experience and common sense. Enough, at least to make meaningful inferences and to connect the dots.

You have all that, but you have really progressive voices too.

This "marine" let his guard down with that statement. Where were his superiors? What were they thinking? This "marine" from his words, tells me volumes about where he is coming from. A certain "lifestyle" is not out of the question.

13 posted on 08/08/2004 10:47:34 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: Publius6961
Progressive = liberal without the balls to say so.
Liberal = socialist without the balls to say so.
Socialist = communist without the balls to say so.
14 posted on 08/08/2004 10:58:17 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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