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Nuclear power is fine - radiation is good for you
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | August 8, 2004 | Dick Taverne

Posted on 08/07/2004 4:12:04 PM PDT by MadIvan

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To: null and void
*shrug* No one's complained about the PV array on my roof. Yet.

That's cuz they can't see it.

21 posted on 08/07/2004 5:19:27 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

Actually, they can, and I'm on on a main drag into town.


22 posted on 08/07/2004 5:21:33 PM PDT by null and void (Who crys for the krill???)
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To: null and void

I'm being a little facetious but you put something like that up in a certain kind of lib-filled neighborhood you are going to get a visit from the code enforcement guy & if it should turn out to be that you did everything right & your array is legal, a whole pile of limo-libs will be at the next commissioners' meeting demanding those eyesores be banned.


23 posted on 08/07/2004 5:25:21 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

Been there, done that...


24 posted on 08/07/2004 5:26:22 PM PDT by null and void (Who crys for the krill???)
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To: backhoe

Up north in New Hampshire, there's a mill that periodically envelops its neighboring towns in a disgusting rotten-egg smell, I gather from the sulfuric compounds they use to process the wood pulp.


25 posted on 08/07/2004 5:39:36 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

Energetic PING & BUMP.


26 posted on 08/07/2004 5:41:00 PM PDT by jennyp (Teresa at Wendy's: "My husband had chili ... and he had one of those Frosteds. <dismissive shrug>")
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To: nmh; MadIvan
Radiation is a good friend of cancer.

Three words "Rocky Mountain High"

Exercise:
1. Make a list of the 6 US States with the highest levels of background radiation
2. Make a list of the 6 US States with the lowest cancer rates
3. Compare the lists

27 posted on 08/07/2004 5:48:13 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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Here's some useful and interesting links for Atomic Energy Afficionados:

Atomic Energy Insights - an irregularly published newsletter of nuclear energy issues:

Adams Atomic Engines - a site discussing Rod Adams' design for a compact, nuclear-heated pebble-bed closed-cycle gas-turbine nuclear reactor, suitable for mass production for use in ship propulsion, remote areas, and the like.

28 posted on 08/07/2004 5:53:42 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: MadIvan
Yet, why, with the notable exception of James Lovelock, the inventor of the Gaia hypothesis, do the world's environmentalists reject nuclear power, which emits almost no greenhouse gases?

Very simple. The World Wide Fund for Nature was started with funds from Prince Bernhard and the British Royals, both heavily invested in oil. The Pew Charitable Trusts are founded from Sunoco money. The Rockefellers founded the Environmental Grantmakers Association. Maurice Strong (of UN Rio Summit fame) was a biggie in Dome Petroleum.

See a pattern? They don't want the competition from nuclear so they fund environmental NGOs to do their dirty work. They don't want a plentiful supply of oil either because that would depress the price.

29 posted on 08/07/2004 5:53:45 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Privatizating environmental regulation is critical to national defense.)
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To: backhoe
Ivan, here in the states, the safe disposal of nuclear waste is tied up in politics, and obstruction from noisy pressure groups.

Not quite. It was ONE GreenPiece study funded by the Ford Foundation that deemed nuclear fuel reprocessing as a proliferation threat. Carter (a trained nuclear engineer and Rockefeller's stooge) wrote the EO that banned fuel reprocessing. That created the waste crisis that shut the industry down.

Needless to say, every president since, including Reagan, has had the option of rescinding that EO.

30 posted on 08/07/2004 5:56:38 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Privatizating environmental regulation is critical to national defense.)
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To: backhoe
In actuallity, it is an engineering problem which has already been solved by recycling- a process efficiently & safely used for decades by other countries. Thanks to a muddle-headed Executive Order by Jimmy Carter which still stands, it is blocked here.

Actually, the reason America doesn't recycle nuclear wsaste is a matter of economics, not stupidity. Recycling is EXPENSIVE. since we have los of deset land that is safe to use for long-term storage, we figure that it's cheaper to store it in Tucca Mountain now, then wait another hundred years or more for recycling technology to get cheap. The US also produces uranium, so it's cheap here

France and Japan are the two countries that recycle now. They have no deserts, no place to store the stuff, so the path of least political resistance is to spend the yen to recycle. These countries also have no uranium of their own. France buys it from Arizona.

31 posted on 08/07/2004 6:13:25 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: backhoe; MadIvan
A perfect example of politics dictating the parameters of science is Yucca Mt.

The dithering by the Energy Department in this case was scandalous, as was Bill Clinton's use of Nevadans as political pawns for his reelection campaign.

32 posted on 08/07/2004 7:01:11 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (...)
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To: MadIvan

Isn't it odd that France gets 80% plus of its electricity from nuclear power and the greens don't let out a peep.


33 posted on 08/07/2004 7:03:07 PM PDT by snooker
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Isn't it odd that France gets 80% plus of its electricity from nuclear power and the greens don't let out a peep.

A fact that Al Qaeda and the Islamofascists have no doubt noticed themselves.

34 posted on 08/07/2004 7:08:17 PM PDT by asgardshill ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubblegum. And I can't find my shoes")
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To: inkling
`I was stationed on a nuclear sub as a reactor operator. When we were underway, I received less radiation than I would have if I was on shore, nowhere near a reactor. The sun and soil generate more radiation than the submarine did. People have been made so irrational about nuclear power, the industry is almost beyond hope. Sad.

So this means you would be happy to be exposed to much higher levels of radiation?

35 posted on 08/07/2004 7:13:34 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Oztrich Boy

Don't believe me. Get as much radiation as you like.


36 posted on 08/07/2004 7:22:54 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: MadIvan

Ping


37 posted on 08/07/2004 7:25:15 PM PDT by chaosagent (It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
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To: Doe Eyes

He's already exposed to much higher levels of radiation than he got on the sub, by virtue of presently living on land instead of under the significant radiation shielding of large quantities of water and steel.

If a nuclear plant's workers got as much radiation exposure as airline pilots and crew routinely do, the NERC would come down on the plant like a ton of lead bricks and shut it down for gross violations of government regulations.


38 posted on 08/07/2004 8:22:54 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: MadIvan

Hormesis bump!


39 posted on 08/07/2004 8:28:57 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: MadIvan

Maybe when I start laying the foundation for the new house, I should substitute crushed pitchblende for the usual gravel in the concrete???


40 posted on 08/07/2004 8:30:40 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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