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To: bayourod
"The vast majority of Americans are not racists xenophobes."
I don't like criminals.Does that make me xenophobic?

"The vast majority of Americans are not chronic losers who can't keep a job and have to have someone else to blame."

I have worked my entire life.So have many of my friends who used to be able to get work in construction, services, etc.I have to provide proof of identity. I(we) are easily able to do so, since we are not criminals.

"The vast majority of Americans are not jealous of Hispanic men."
What's to be jealous of? Seriously, do you think Hispanic males are somehow more ???? than other males? I think you have a problem.


"The vast majority of Americans do not need some group to hate in order to assuage their own feelings of inadequacy."
No, we don't. But it is not a matter of "feelings" that make me despise those who are actively contributing to a downward spiral of civility in my own country.That would be you, and people just like you.

"The vast majority of Americans are not sociopaths who can't function normally in a multi-cultural society and global economic/political environment."
You seem to just keep escalating the "nuances" of name calling, not making any logical points.

"The vast majority of Americans recognize the need for immigrant labor to sustain a growing economy."
Legal immigrant? Yes. Illigal immigrant? Get real.

"The vast majority of Americans aren't members of labor unions that extort unreasonable wages for subpar work."
Never have I worked for a union.


"The vast majority of Americans appreciate the higher standard of living made possible by immigrant labor."

What higher quality is that? The one where you feel just fine about me paying higher taxes and inflated insurance premiums so you can wring out a few more percentage points of profit and get a cheap maid or lawn service?
The higher quality of life in my lower middle class neighborhood?
The higher quality of life in public schools? The mall? The local park?
Exactly what higher quality of life are you talking about?
Must be somewhere behind that gated community you live in.
I saw plenty of those places when I spent time in third world countries.
Lots of people seem to be benefiting from that higher quality of life, just not the illegal aliens they laud so loudly.
They seem to be the same type of people who thought slavery was a fine institution, as long as they were the slave owners, and not the actual slaves.

BR>
67 posted on 08/07/2004 7:06:21 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom
"I don't like criminals.Does that make me xenophobic?"
If you fear immigrants because you believe they are all violent criminals, that makes you a xenophobe in the clinical sense. If you are simply saying that you don't like immigrants who are out of status, then you should support President Bush's proposal to bring them into status so you will no longer have to dislike them.

"many of my friends who used to be able to get work in construction, services, etc."
It's always "my friends.." isn't it? Well if your friends can't find work in this tight labor market there is something wrong with them. Do they perhaps sit around bars all day whining about Mexicans while their wives are waiting tables to make their truck payments? Your "friends" are lazy losers.

"What's to be jealous of? "
Real men who are willing to leave their families, travel thousands of miles and risk their lives to support their families. Real men who don't mind doing hard, dirty work in the hot sun, and giving it their best effort. If your "friends" were half the men that most Mexican laborers are, they wouldn't have any problem finding work and keeping a job.

"make me despise those who are actively contributing to a downward spiral of civility in my own country"
We're back to xenophobe now.

"Legal immigrant? Yes. Illigal immigrant? Get real. "
Then you should support President Bush's proposal to make them legal. You would then have no problem with them.

"What higher quality is that?"
I'm sorry you are not participating in the greatest sustained era of prosperity in our nations history, but blaming immigrants isn't going to change your situation. Don't look to the government to solve your problems and you won't be disappointed.

69 posted on 08/07/2004 7:34:45 PM PDT by bayourod (I resent Kerry telling me that his values, not mine are the only true American values.)
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