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Obey (D-WI) Won't Let Bishop Coerce Him
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 8/7/04 | Tom Heinen

Posted on 08/07/2004 5:23:27 AM PDT by ninenot

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To: Desdemona
"Why do politicians always think they know better than the experts?"

So true.

Is that statement copyrighted?

21 posted on 08/07/2004 6:14:06 AM PDT by TYVets (Why do politicians always think they know better than the experts?)
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To: TYVets

It applies to journalists, too.


22 posted on 08/07/2004 6:23:02 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

A Classic statement


23 posted on 08/07/2004 7:00:11 AM PDT by TYVets (Why do politicians and journalists always think they know better than the experts?)
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To: joesnuffy
You are right...the area is fiscally liberal but socially conservative...never could figure that part out...(might have something to do with subsidies...shhhh)

More likely it's a result of the Northern European influence. Same here in Milwaukee, with the Poles and Krauts.

Catholic social doctrine, while often mis-interpreted, is damn near the antithesis of Libertarian and Old Republican beliefs. Old-style Democrats (think Humphrey, Kennedy,) came from that Catholic social tradition.

While the national DemParty has moved WAAAYYY to the left (could Humphrey still be a Dem.?) Obey and a few others have managed to dance effectively.

OTOH, I don't think the Pubbies have put up ANY good opponents.

24 posted on 08/07/2004 7:22:56 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
"In my view, Bishop Burke attempted to use his interpretations of theology to coerce me into taking specific positions on matters that I believe are matters of constitutional law,"

Interpretation of theology? OK, Mr. Obey, how do you "interpret" "Thou shall not kill."?

25 posted on 08/07/2004 8:37:55 AM PDT by Barnacle (Refuse to speak Leftist.)
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To: ninenot

Obey should change his religion or his last name.


26 posted on 08/07/2004 8:39:59 AM PDT by Barnacle (Refuse to speak Leftist.)
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To: Barnacle

Just another example of the type of mentality we are fighting at catholicsagainstkerry.com
Join us. Learn what its really like to be a soldier in Christ's army. Live up to your Confirmation vows.


27 posted on 08/07/2004 9:23:18 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
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To: leprechaun9

"...then he should not call himself a Catholic!"
You are right: long ago he should have told the bishop to shove his fatwas and then he should have left the church. If he's interested in "personal relation with the divinity" - he could maintain it from outside the church just as well.


28 posted on 08/07/2004 11:02:36 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: Saint Athanasius

Ping!

The National Catholic Distorter must be green with envy that America gets to publish Obey's pro-abort article.


29 posted on 08/07/2004 11:52:45 AM PDT by rhinohunter (Miller for Alaska Senate!!!)
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To: rhinohunter

His reasons are classic...

"that in most instances it (abortion) is morally wrong, I decline to force my views into laws that, if adopted, would be unenforceable and would tear this society apart. That judgment may be wrong, but it is a judgment honestly arrived at, and one that I am obligated to make."

I think most types of slavery are wrong, most holocausts are wrong, most stealings are wrong, most murders are wrong, but I am not going to force my opinion on anyone... after all, we live in a democracy...

Secondly, I like the fact that he said ... MOST... no... ALL Abortions are morally wrong!

It is my judgement then you are obligated to stop receiving the Eucharist.


30 posted on 08/07/2004 2:30:02 PM PDT by Saint Athanasius ("I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: jmaroneps37

Are you talking to me?


31 posted on 08/08/2004 6:23:48 AM PDT by Barnacle (Refuse to speak Leftist.)
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To: ninenot

Ah, Rep. [Dis]Obey - ugh! Left foot of fellowship alert!

Rhetorical question - why the heck don't these termites just admit they don't intend to obey and abide by the Church's teachings and simply depart, vamoose, exit stage left?!

I suppose they won't be satisfied until they've totally ruined the Church. Talk about having searchec consciences! You sure this isn't a story about some episcopagan and his guru?! It may as well be.


32 posted on 08/09/2004 5:59:27 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

FWIW, saw a Pubbie operative over the weekend and asked when the Pubs would find a candidate to defeat Obey. He just laughed. It may never happen...


33 posted on 08/09/2004 6:02:51 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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