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Florence (and 15 other) County voters will use new machines this fall (SC)
The Morning News (Florence, SC) ^ | Aug 6, 2004 | Traci Bridges

Posted on 08/06/2004 6:24:04 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox

Florence County voters will use new machines this fall

FLORENCE - Florence County voters will see new electronic voting machines when they go to the polls in November, Florence County Voter Registration and Elections Director Russell Barrett said Thursday.

The State Election Commission announced Wednesday it signed a contract with Election Systems and Software for new voting machines in 16 counties, including Florence.

State commission director Marci Andino said the state had to pick a vendor quickly so counties can begin receiving their equipment by mid-August and complete training.

The state is working to replace punch card equipment similar to the machines used in Florida that led to problems during the 2000 presidential election.

The state stands to lose $2 million in federal money if it fails to replace the old machines by the November election.

“The machines are supposed to come in sometime between now and the end of this month,” Barrett said. “But we’re supposed to get a few machines a little early so we can start practicing on them and getting ready for the demonstration process.

“We’ve got a heck of a job ahead of us, but we’re going to do everything we possibly can to expose as many people to these new machines as possible,” he said.

Barrett said the new machines also will allow blind or vision-impaired voters at all precincts to cast ballots for the first time without a helper in the voting booth with them.

The new voting machines will be stored in the old Florence County Library at the corner of Pine and Irby streets so elections officials can train with them, Barrett said.

- The Associated Press contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: chad; elections; electronicvoting; florence; machines; vote
Election Systems and Software

Does anyone know anything about this company? Do their machines produce a hard-copy of the votes cast for verification and re-count purposes?

1 posted on 08/06/2004 6:24:05 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox
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To: SC Swamp Fox; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; AJ Insider; ...

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2 posted on 08/06/2004 6:25:57 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

Seems like a waste to have new voting machines for just florence and 15 other county voters.


3 posted on 08/06/2004 6:35:11 PM PDT by flashbunny (Click on my name to see a nifty John Kerry bumper sticker!!! I dare you!!!)
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To: flashbunny
Um...yeah. I see your point.

I was try to edit the headline so SC Freepers would realize that this article applies to about a third of the state and not just Florence county.

I made it sound like some lady named Florence and 15 of her neighbors are getting new voting machines.

4 posted on 08/06/2004 6:46:37 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

do you have a list of counties?


5 posted on 08/06/2004 8:26:30 PM PDT by Former Fetus (aren't we all?)
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To: Former Fetus
Aiken County here. I am a poll manager and have been told we'll have the new machines. We're supposed to have a training session in Sept IIRC.

I'm not particularly looking forward to this. The voters are going to be stumped by the new machines. Election day isn't gonna be fun.

And then there's this.

6 posted on 08/06/2004 8:43:07 PM PDT by upchuck (Words from sKerry or Actions from President Bush? You decide.)
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To: upchuck

Good Lord that is incredible. Just when you thought bureaucrats couldn't get any dumber, it appears they've signed up one of the worst written programs ever.


7 posted on 08/07/2004 5:11:28 AM PDT by visualops (We're sorry, all taglines are currently busy. Please hang up and try again later.)
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To: visualops
According to the article above, the state has purchased machines from Election Systems and Software. The machines featured in the link I supplied are made by Diebold.

The point is that ANY electronic voting machine, just like ANY computer system, can be compromised. It would truly be foolhardy to just accept the machine's results without having a way to manually check the results.

I do not know if the Election Systems and Software machines provide an audit trail. I hope so.

8 posted on 08/07/2004 7:15:06 AM PDT by upchuck (Words from sKerry or Actions from President Bush? You decide.)
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To: upchuck

Here's a link to them. I'll be reading it later.
http://www.essvote.com/HTML/home.html


9 posted on 08/07/2004 9:43:23 AM PDT by visualops (We're sorry, all taglines are currently busy. Please hang up and try again later.)
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To: visualops
I did a little research on E S & S. Look what I found! Almost as damning as the Diebold link above.
10 posted on 08/07/2004 10:44:51 AM PDT by upchuck (Words from sKerry or Actions from President Bush? You decide.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
From looking at their web page, it appears that Florence and the other counties will receive the touch screen machines, not the optical scan machines:
Omaha, NE, August 4, 2004 — South Carolina's State Election Commission announced today that the state has selected Election Systems & Software (ES&S) to implement a new voting system statewide. Beginning this November, 16 South Carolina counties will use ES&S' iVotronic™ touch screen voting machines to cast their votes, and absentee votes will be tabulated using ES&S Model 100 and Model 650 Absentee Ballot Counters. South Carolina's other counties will begin using the new technology in 2005.

My opinion is very low of these. The optical scan ballot machine offered appears to be a far better choice; since ESS offers both, I don't know why Florence would choose touch screen over it since you have an actual ballot that you can recount, even by hand if necessary.

11 posted on 08/07/2004 11:03:22 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: upchuck

Well, I don't know about all that. The website shows there is an individual electronic ballot that is inserted into the touchscreen voting unit. I would like to see more before making a judgement.


12 posted on 08/07/2004 5:09:05 PM PDT by visualops (We're sorry, all taglines are currently busy. Please hang up and try again later.)
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To: Peach

SC Poll Manager ping


13 posted on 08/07/2004 5:59:50 PM PDT by upchuck (Words from sKerry or Actions from President Bush? You decide.)
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To: upchuck

Hi, upchuck.

I'll show this article to my husband. Thanks!


14 posted on 08/07/2004 7:45:50 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
What were they thinking? For a $2mil - which isn't all that much when we're talking government money - they've gone to a system which doesn't appear secure, and appears easy to compromise; according to the links I've followed.

I'd rather let the Feds keep the $2mil, and go with something more secure. Even paper ballots.
15 posted on 08/07/2004 8:12:07 PM PDT by Wampus SC
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